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so, what she said? I remember that even her fans was defended her by saying that she said no names, but she complained about it.
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so, what she said? I remember that even her fans was defended her by saying that she said no names, but she complained about it.
For me, it wasn't that Ashley was undermarked since I think her marks are actually correct. It is that Karen (and Bradie for that matter) was overmarked in PCS by a wide margin.
As xeyra pointed in the Ladies thread, Karen was given about 10 points in PCS when combining the short and long compared to the PCS she received on the Grand Prix series. I can see giving her a few extra points since she performed better here by a bit, but hardly 10 points worth. The amount of inflation was rather ridiculous, overtly political, and appalling.
I don't really have a preference between Chen or Wagner, but the US judges really placed their thumbs on the scale on this one.
I think the US judges are thanking Karen for getting US 3 spots for the Olympics.
I don't know. I'm not one who thinks they dumped her. I don't think the U.S. federation tells judges what to do. I just think there was some questionable scoring. I don't think, given the result, the USFSA made a wrong decision, I just think that Ashley being pissed is not ideal for them. Probably matters more to them than it does to Ashley, who likely won't be competing in another nationals.So, if the US federation is losing without her, why people think that they did dump her?, What they won doing that?
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Ashley chose to continue skating. She was making a living skating. No one was forcing, messing up her memory, or damaging her. There was no “sacrifice” here: there was a decision she made as an adult after evidently weighing the pros and cons. Just like all the other skaters in the competition.
There are no rewards for “sacrifice” in elite competition. It’s about performance.
Completely disagree, and as an obvious fan of skating I would hope you would appreciate the health and educational sacrifices skaters make for glory and your own enjoyment.Ashley chose to continue skating. She was making a living skating. No one was forcing, messing up her memory, or damaging her. There was no “sacrifice” here: there was a decision she made as an adult after evidently weighing the pros and cons. Just like all the other skaters in the competition.
There are no rewards for “sacrifice” in elite competition. It’s about performance.
I’m actually glad that the NHL is out of the Olympics because it creates a new platform for aspiring players to make a name for themselves internationally. It’s a great thing even though I’ll miss some of the stars of the game.
........ With Gracie absent and psychologically damaged and Ashley angry, the USFSA potentially has no stars to call upon on their behalf in seeking money, in putting together events, or in otherwise advertising itself.
you were saying that her words were taken out of context, like you know what she really said. That is the reason why I am asking you, what she said? I don´t speak korean or japanese. I just remember from years ago that it was clear that she complained about it.
However, I think Ashley made 2 tactical mistakes this season. One was pulling LaLa Land and going back to Moulon Rouge. It gave the appearance of a "yesterday" skater who just keeps bringing up the past. The second was withdrawing in the middle of her FS at Skate America for a foot infection. I'm not questioning whether she had a medical condition. But it was odd to pull out during the performance for an existing condition. If she couldn't skate she should have withdrawn before the competition or at least before the FS. Her behavior gave suspect to a skater who was not ready to give a great performance so leaned on a medical condition to step away. I'm not sure that's exactly what happened but it gave the perception of some shenanigans. These 2 perceptions did not play in Ashley's favor last night when the committee met.
Rude. You don't know half of what Ashley had gone through with her concussions, how the USFSA didn't even have a concussion safety protocol, the permanent memory problems Ashley has, or how much Rachel Flatt and her mother fought with the USFSA to take concussions even semi-seriously.
Ashley has sacrificed a lot for this sport.
but it got her VERY VERY far (a world silver!) so I can't blame her for being surprised that it suddenly didn't work when it has been for quite a while.
Ashley's skating has been for a number of years lacking in transitions and her choreography could be summed up as "mugging for the camera" with the over the top facial expressions and corny head and shoulder rolls. Despite this the international judges still marked her high in the PCS area. I mean she wasn't the only one this week shocked by the marks, everybody online was saying it
Interesting idea that Ashley is a marketing product....
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Ummmm....Starr Andrews? The “up and coming” storyline with the juniors? The “came out of nowhere” storyline that the Olympics loves? The “grace under pressure” humility of storied world level sports icons?
USFSA should have put Ashley on the Olympic team because they have no one else to market?
USFSA had better get it together in the marketing department if they had their marketing all oriented around one person who might or might not be on the next team, might get injured, might slam them on national TV. Whoever that person might be. That’s called “putting all your eggs in one basket”: lousy business strategy.
Please be constructive with criticism. Persistent, repetitive, unrelenting and pugnacious denunciation of skaters is not welcome.