Well it's good that you've realized something's off. Better than to remain in denial. When she debuted Daniil's tragic choreography in the summer, things already looked super off to some members. Then, apparently the same people who are pointing fingers, once again declared her untouchable because of her propped up scores at a 'B' competition, despite the noticeable uncalled URs. It took until GPF for at least some fans to open their eyes up a little. I think this random quad training by her team should start raising more alarm bells about their priorities but from the responses of others, apparently not.
Well it's good that you've realized something's off. Better than to remain in denial. When she debuted Daniil's tragic choreography in the summer, things already looked super off to some members. Then, apparently the same people who are pointing fingers, once again declared her untouchable because of her propped up scores at a 'B' competition, despite the noticeable uncalled URs. It took until GPF for at least some fans to open their eyes up a little. I think this random quad training by her team should start raising more alarm bells about their priorities but from the responses of others, apparently not.
There's a lot of injuries to consider in that time frame. After winning Skate Canada in her debut season, she had injuries during the GP of 2013-2014, and broke her leg which nixxed her 2014-2015 season. She injured herself again on a fall on a spin in her return to competition at Skate Canada 2015. But, that made it that much more impressive that she got 2 GP silvers and climbed to the World silver medal the following season and a GPF bronze (and another Skate Canada win), Olympic bronze (and team gold) and World gold the season after. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaetlyn_Osmond#Competitive_highlights
Even if we don't look at the time she was sidelined by injury, her career would be considered pretty successful.
Is there no "national jealousy"?
Well it's good that you've realized something's off. Better than to remain in denial. When she debuted Daniil's tragic choreography in the summer, things already looked super off to some members. Then, apparently the same people who are pointing fingers, once again declared her untouchable because of her propped up scores at a 'B' competition, despite the noticeable uncalled URs. It took until GPF for at least some fans to open their eyes up a little. I think this random quad training by her team should start raising more alarm bells about their priorities but from the responses of others, apparently not.
We can look e. g. at Kaetlyn Osmond. She became senior during 2012-2013 season, so five seasons till the olympic 2017-2018, but till 2016-2017 season she had practically zero succes in important international competitions. That's like four seasons. :
Whada...you neglected to mention that in the 4 years you highlighted, Kaetlyn missed almost 2 years participating in international events due to injuries. Of the remaining, she managed 2 gold in Senior B's in Nebelhorn (besting a future Olympic Gold medalist in the process) won a GP Gold 2012 and an OGT Gold in 2014. Not bad for someone with 0 international success as you state. I can only imagine what could have been achieved, if healthy.
My point is, why deny an athlete their accomplishments, just to fit a false narrative?
Whada...you neglected to mention that in the 4 years you highlighted, Kaetlyn missed almost 2 years participating in international events due to injuries. ...
I think what posters are trying to say is this. When Kaetlyn was injured, no one jumped all over her coach about callous training techniques, etc. Why all the outrage about the possibility that Eteri Tuberidze's quadlings might not all have illustrious senior careers?
As mentioned before, Eteri’s track record of leading a senior lady through a whole quad is 0. Her students have one or two seasons of glory, struggles, then switches coaches and these coaches try to help them rehabilitate. Some of them have since retired with lasting problems. For someone that is relatively new to the coaching scene as some keep mentioning, Eteri has caused proportionally many more students problems than say Mishin, Huth, or Orser who have been on the scene longer and have led some students through multiple quads of success.
As mentioned before, Eteri’s track record of leading a senior lady through a whole quad is 0.
Whada...you neglected to mention that in the 4 years you highlighted, Kaetlyn missed almost 2 years participating in international events due to injuries. Of the remaining, she managed 2 gold in Senior B's in Nebelhorn (besting a future Olympic Gold medalist in the process) won a GP Gold 2012 and an OGT Gold in 2014. Not bad for someone with 0 international success as you state. I can only imagine what could have been achieved, if healthy.
My point is, why deny an athlete their accomplishments, just to fit a false narrative? The rest of your post re Alina is muted, when the facts are misstated.
Back to the quads. It would be great if Zagitova is the first lady to land a quad flip next season