World Champs: Predictions Game Round 3

[Andrew Virtue]

Hello, all

Here I go!

MEN:

01- Yuzuru HANYU
02- Javier FERNANDEZ
03- Patrick CHAN
04- Boyang JIN
05- Shoma UNO
06- Han YAN
07- Denis TEN
08- Maxim KOVTUN
09- Alexei BYCHENKO
10- Adam RIPPON

LADIES:

01- Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
02- Satoko MIYAHARA
03- Elena RADIONOVA
04- Gracie GOLD
05- Mao ASADA
06- Ashley WAGNER
07- Anna POGORILAYA
08- Rika HONGO
09- Mirai NAGASU
10- Zijun LI

PAIRS:

01- Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
02- Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
03- Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
04- Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
05- Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
06- Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM
07- Cheng PENG / Hao ZHANG
08- Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV
09- Xuehan WANG / Lei WANG
10- Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRÈS

DANCE:

01- Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
02- Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
03- Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
04- Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
05- Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
06- Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
07- Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV
08- Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER
09- Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN
10- Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI

 

[matmuh]

Hello Andrew, Welcome to forum!! and good luck with your predictions!! we all need it

 

[TMC]

Dance is tough this year. A lot of things could happen and none of them would really be shocking. It's too bad that Bobrova and Soloviev aren't here, for me they would make it more exciting

1. Papadakis/Cizeron
2. Cappellini/Lanotte (yeah, I don't have any idea where this is coming from- this is just what my gut is telling me to say. I do like these two but I'm not obsessed with them or an uber fan or anything so I don't think that's clouding my judgment... this is just a feeling I have).
3. Chock/Bates
4. Shibutani/Shibutani
5. Weaver/Poje
6. Gilles/Porier

I had that exact feeling before COC when everybody thought that C/B were a lock for the gold....also based on nothing but gut feeling

 

[Andrew Virtue]

Hello Andrew, Welcome to forum!! and good luck with your predictions!! we all need it

Thanks, matmuh! Was the hardest prediction I ever made, but the important is enjoy it.

 

[sequinsgalore]

My predictions

Men
1. Yuzuru Hanyu JPN
2. Javier Fernandez ESP
3. Patrick Chan CAN
4. Boyang Jin CHN
5. Shoma Uno JPN
6. Han Yan CHN
7. Maxim Kovtun RUS
8. Denis Ten KAZ
9. Max Aaron USA
10. Adam Rippon USA

Ladies
1. Evgenia Medvedeva RUS
2. Satoko Miyahara JPN
3. Elena Radionova RUS
4. Gracie Gold USA
5. Mao Asada JPN
6. Ashley Wagner USA
7. Rika Hongo JPN
8. Mirai Nagasu USA
9. Anna Pogorilaya RUS
10. Elizabet Tursynbaeva KAZ

Pairs
1. Tatiana Volosozhar / Maxim Trankov RUS
2. Wenjing Sui / Cong Han CHN
3. Meagan Duhamel / Eric Radford CAN
4. Ksenia Stolbova / Fedor Klimov RUS
5. Aliona Savchenko / Bruno Massot GER
6. Alexa Scimeca / Chris Knierim USA
7. Cheng Peng / Hao Zhang CHN
8. Evgenia Tarasova / Vladimir Morozov RUS
9. Tarah Kayne / Daniel O'Shea USA
10. Vanessa James / Morgan Cipres FRA

Ice Dance
1. Gabriella Papadakis / Guillaume Cizeron FRA
2. Maia Shibutani / Alex Shibutani USA
3. Madison Chock / Evan Bates USA
4. Kaitlyn Weaver / Andrew Poje CAN
5. Anna Cappellini / Luca Lanotte ITA
6. Madison Hubbell / Zachary Donohue USA
7. Victoria Sinitsina / Nikita Katsalapov RUS
8. Piper Gilles / Paul Poirier CAN
9. Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin RUS
10. Penny Coomes / Nicholas Buckland GBR

 

[Sackie]

My predictions on what I think will happen and not on what should happen

Men
1. Yuzuru Hanyu JPN
2. Javier Fernandez ESP
3. Patrick Chan CAN
4. Boyang Jin CHN
5. Shoma Uno JPN
6. Adam Rippon USA
7. Max Aaron USA
8. Han Yan CHN


Ladies
1. Evgenia Medvedeva RUS
2. Gracie Gold USA
3. Satoko Miyahara JPN
4. Ashley Wagner USA
5. Elena Radionova RUS
6. Mao Asada JPN
7. Rika Hongo JPN
8. Mirai Nagasu USA ( I expect her to be in the top 6 after the short along with Ashley and Gracie - but drop a bit in the FS)



Pairs
1. Tatiana Volosozhar / Maxim Trankov RUS
2. Wenjing Sui / Cong Han CHN
3. Ksenia Stolbova / Fedor Klimov RUS
4. Alexa Scimeca / Chris Knierim USA
5. Aliona Savchenko / Bruno Massot GER
6. Meagan Duhamel / Eric Radford CAN
7. Tarah Kayne / Daniel O'Shea USA
8. Evgenia Tarasova / Vladimir Morozov RUS


Ice Dance
1. Maia Shibutani / Alex Shibutani USA
2. Gabriella Papadakis / Guillaume Cizeron FRA
3. Madison Chock / Evan Bates USA
4. Anna Cappellini / Luca Lanotte ITA
5. Madison Hubbell / Zachary Donohue USA ( I expect them to get great levels in the short and be in 4th place - then drop behind C/L and K/P in the free but stay ahead of W/P overall)
6. Kaitlyn Weaver / Andrew Poje CAN ( I expect them to be out of the top 6 in the short due to low levels and have to fight to move up to 6)
7. Victoria Sinitsina / Nikita Katsalapov RUS
8. Alexandra Stepanova / Ivan Bukin RUS

 

[Hyena]

It's time - I don't think I can put this off any longer.

Men
1. Yuzuru HANYU
2. Javier FERNANDEZ
3. Boyang JIN
4. Patrick CHAN
5. Max AARON
6. Denis TEN
7. Shoma UNO

Ladies
1. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
2. Satoko MIYAHARA
3. Elena RADIONOVA
4. Mao ASADA
5. Gracie GOLD
6. Anna POGORILAYA
7. Ashley WAGNER

Pairs
1. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
2. Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
3. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
4. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
5. Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
6. Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV
7. Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES

Dance
1. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
2. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
3. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
4. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
5. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
6. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
7. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV

 

[casualfan]

Can't believe this is taking place in my time zone, about 100 miles from me, and I'm not there. Hope I do well in at least 1 category.

MEN
1. Yuzuru Hanyu
2. Patrick Chan
3. Javier Fernandez
4. Boyang Jin
5. Denis Ten

6. Shoma Uno
7. Han Yan

LADIES
1. Evgenia Medvedeva
2. Satoko Miyahara
3. Elena Radionova
4. Gracie Gold
5. Mao Asada

6. Ashley Wagner
7. Rika Hongo

PAIRS
1. Sui/Han
2. Stolbova/Klimov
3. Duhamel/Radford
4. Volosozhar/Trankov
5. Scimeca/Knierim

6. Tarasova/Marazov
7. Savchenko/Massot

ICE DANCE
1. Shibutani/Shibutani
2. Papadakis/Cizeron
3. Weaver/Poje
4. Chock/Bates
5. Cappellini/Lanotte

6. Sinitsina/Katsalapov
7. Hubbell/Donohue

 

[Puchi]

Men

1. Patrick CHAN
2. Javier FERNANDEZ
3. Yuzuru HANYU
4. Shoma UNO
5. Max AARON
6. Boyang JIN
7. Adam RIPPON


Ladies

1. Gracie GOLD
2. Ashley WAGNER
3. Mao ASADA
4. Satoko MIYAHARA
5. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
6. Elena RADIONOVA
7. Mirai NAGASU

Pairs

1. Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
2. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
3. Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
4. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
5. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
6. Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM
7. Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES

Ice dance

1. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
2. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
3. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
4. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
5. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
6. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
7. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV

 

[minakoaino]

Men

1. Yuzuru Hanyu
2. Javier Fernandez
3. Patrick Chan
4. Boyang Jin
5. Shoma Uno
6. Han Yan
7. Denis Ten

Ladies

1. Mao Asada
2. Evgenia Medvedeva
3. Satoko Miyahara
4. Elena Radianova
5. Ashley Wagner
6. Rika Hongo
7. Gracie Gold

 

[Karpenko]

:hopelessness: Oh boy..

Pairs:
1. Stolbova & Klimov
2. Volosozhar & Trankov
3. Sui & Han
4. Duhamel & Radford
5. Savchenko & Massot
6. Scimeca & Knierim
7. Peng & Zhang
8. Tarasova & Morozov

Men:
1. Yuzuru Hanyu
2. Javier Fernandez
3. Boyang Jin
4. Shoma Uno
5. Patrick Chan
6. Adam Rippon
7. Denis Ten
8. Max Aaron

Ice Dance:
1. Papadakis & Cizeron
2. Shibutani & Shibutani
3. Weaver & Poje
4. Chock & Bates
5. Cappellini & Lanotte
6. Hubbel & Donohue
7. Sinitsina & Katsalapov
8. Stepanova & Bukin

Ladies:
1. Evgenia Medvedeva
2. Ashley Wagner
3. Satoko Miyahara
4. Mao Asada
5. Gracie Gold
6. Elena Radionova
7. Mirai Nagasu
8. Anna Pogorilaya

 

[Moxiejan]

Men
1. Yuzuru HANYU
2. Javier FERNANDEZ
3. Adam RIPPON
4. Boyang JIN
5. Shoma UNO
6. Max AARON
7. Patrick CHAN

Ladies
1. Satoko MIYAHARA
2. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
3. Ashley WAGNER
4. Mao ASADA
5. Elena RADIONOVA
6. Gracie GOLD
7. Rika HONGO

Pairs
1. Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
2. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
3. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
4. Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
5. Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM
6. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
7. Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES

Ice dance
1. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
2. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
3. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
4. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
5. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
6. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
7. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV

 

[Alex D]

Out of the blue

Way too much influenced by my heart, but oh well...

Men:

1. Yuzuru HANYU
2. Javier FERNANDEZ
3. Shoma UNO
4. Patrick CHAN
5. Boyang JIN
6. Max AARON
7. Adam RIPPON

Ladies

1. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
2. Gracie GOLD
3. Elena RADIONOVA
4. Mao ASADA
5. Rika HONGO
6. Ashley WAGNER
7. Alaine Chartrand

Pairs

1. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
2. Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
3. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
4. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
5. Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM
6. Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
7. Tarasova & Morozov

Ice dance

1. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
2. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
3. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
4. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
5. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
6. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV
7. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE

 

[Xorasy]

Ladies:
1. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
2. Satoko MIYAHARA
3. Elena RADIONOVA
4. Gracie GOLD
5. Mao ASADA
6. Ashley WAGNER

Men:
1. Yuzuru HANYU
2. Javier FERNANDEZ
3. Patrick CHAN
4. Denis TEN
5. Shoma UNO
6. Boyang JIN

Pairs:
1. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
2. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
3. Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
4. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
5. Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
6. Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV

Dance:
1. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
2. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
3. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
4. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
5. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
6. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

OK, because I have been up to my eyes in things, I didn’t even get looking at the entry lists until this morning. Consequently, there may be less analysis as time goes on!

In Ice Dance, I was torn. I absolutely loved Papadakis / Cizeron at Europeans and, like the British Eurosport guys (Simon Reed in particular), I thought the FD was a masterpiece. But, when I looked at the figures, it wasn’t even their PB! And their actual absolute PB (from last year’s Worlds) only put them 5th on the list (incidentally, their score from Europeans would also have put them 5th, such is the gap to Gilles / Poirier in 6th).

On the other hand, I absolutely love the Shibutanis this season, and have been predicting them to win every competition they have entered. So, what do I do?

In the end, I decided to put the Shibs in gold and the French in silver.

It seems weird to put the couple that topped every single list (absolute PB, ISU World Standings, ISU Season’s World Rankings) into bronze position. But, that is what I did. I will probably live to regret it, but I have a lot of faith in the 2 couples I put ahead of them.

So, the decision became which way round to put Cappellini / Lanotte and Chock / Bates.

The Italians were actually 2nd on the absolute PB list, but that was a monster Nationals score from 2014. When you take out this year’s Nationals score, their scores have been pretty consistent, and pretty close to their ISU PB (from Worlds way back in 2008).

The absolute PB for the Americans came from this year’s Nationals, and it was also a lot higher than their next highest score from this season. Again, their other scores from this season have been pretty consistent, and pretty similar to the Italians (and Hubbell / Donohue)

In the end, I went with the Italians as I don’t want it to become commonplace for male skaters to rub their partner’s boobs.

I was tempted to move Hubbell / Donohue above them too, but decided to keep them behind Chock / Bates because that is the way they finished in Nationals.

The absolute PB for Gilles / Poirier was very slightly higher than the scores I was using for these 3 couples. But, they have changed their SD, so there is an element of the unknown here. So, I dropped them in behind in 7th. I didn’t make any more changes, due to time constraints.

Caroliza_fan


WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS

Ice Dance

1. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI, USA
2. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON, FRA
3. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE, CAN
4. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE, ITA
5. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES, USA
6. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE, USA

Just for fun
7. Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER, CAN
8. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV, RUS
9. Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI, ITA
10. Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND, GBR
11. Alexandra STEPANOVA / Ivan BUKIN, RUS
12. Elisabeth PARADIS / Francois-Xavier OUELLETTE, CAN
13. Isabella TOBIAS / Ilia TKACHENKO, ISR
14. Federica TESTA / Lukas CSOLLEY, SVK
15. Natalia KALISZEK / Maksim SPODIREV, POL

 

[koatcue]

Men:
1. Yuzuru HANYU
2. Javier FERNANDEZ
3. Shoma UNO
4. Patrick CHAN
5. Boyang JIN
6. Han YAN
7. Denis TEN


Ladies:
1. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
2. Elena RADIONOVA
3. Gracie GOLD
4. Satoko MIYAHARA
5. Ashley WAGNER
6. Mao ASADA
7. Anna POGOROLAYA


Pairs:
1. Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
2. Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
3. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
4. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
5. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
6. Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM
7. PENG /ZHANG


Dance:
1. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
2. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
3. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
4. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
5. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
6. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
7. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV
8. Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Sorry, I was having dinner and missed quarter to.

THIS IS YOUR ONE HOUR FIFTY MINUTE WARNING.

You have just 1 hour 50 minutes left until the target time to get your predictions in, i.e. until 09:45 EDT (14:45 BST / 13:45 GMT)

But, as usual in my Games, this is just a target time so that you are not rushing about at the last minute. Predictions for each category will still be accepted up until the start of that category’s Short Programme.

And that is what I will be doing with the categories other than Ice Dance (which is already posted).

Please Note: As per the new Rules introduced to the Nationals Game for American and Canadian Championships, if you want to change your predictions after the first SP has started, you have to post the amendments IN A NEW POST. Editing your original post will invalidate your predictions.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[NMURA]

MEN

1.Fernandez
2.Hanyu
3.Chan
4.Jin
5.Aaron
6.Uno

Ladies
1.Asada
2.Gold
3.Radionova
4.Miyahara
5.Medvedeva
6.Wagner

Pairs
1.Duhamel/Radford
2.Sui/Han
3.Volosozhar/Trankov
4.Stolbova/Klimov
5.Scimeca/Knierim
6.Savchenko/Massot

Ice Dance
1.The Shibutanis
2.Weaver/Poje
3.Papadakis/Cizeron
4.Chock/Bates
5.Cappellini/Lanotte

 

[kaarle]

Ice Dance
1. Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
2. Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
3. Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
4. Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
5. Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
6. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
7. Victoria SINITSINA / Nikita KATSALAPOV
Pairs
1. Wenjing SUI / Cong HAN
2. Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Maxim TRANKOV
3. Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV
4. Meagan DUHAMEL / Eric RADFORD
5. Alexa SCIMECA / Chris KNIERIM
6. Aliona SAVCHENKO / Bruno MASSOT
7. Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES
Men
1. Yuzuru HANYU
2. Javier FERNANDEZ
3. Boyang JIN
4. Patrick CHAN
5. Shoma UNO
6. Denis Ten
7. Adam RIPPON
Ladies
1. Evgenia MEDVEDEVA
2. Satoko MIYAHARA
3. Elena RADIONOVA
4. Gracie GOLD
5. Mao ASADA
6. Ashley WAGNER
7. Mirai NAGASU

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Men
1. Hanyu
2 Fernandez
3 Chan
4 Jin
5 Uno
6 Kovtun

Ladies
1 Medvedeva
2 Miyahara
3 Radionova
4 Wagner
5 Asada
6 Gold

Pairs
1 Volo/Trankov
2 Sui/Han
3 Stolbova/Klimov
4 Duhamel/Radford
5 savchenko/massot
6 Scimeca/knierim

Dance
1 pap/ciz
2 Shibs
3 weaver/poje
4 Chock/bates
5 capellini/lanotte
6 Hubbell/donohue