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The fictional character Cinderella is 19. Bradie is 19, how appropriate.
Making Cinderella the oldest of all the Disney Princesses. (Snow White was 14.)
The fictional character Cinderella is 19. Bradie is 19, how appropriate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7OCljwGGGM Here is another version of Johnny's drama.
I would love to know what uncle Dick and Peggy Fleming have to say about the current skaters, especially Satoko, Marin, Higuchi, Medvedeva, Hanyu, Uno and the US skaters.
Making Cinderella the oldest of all the Disney Princesses. (Snow White was 14.)
Cinderella is at her debutant ball. I also don't understand why Angela Nikodinov's Cinderella, which was marvelous and not seen as immature, and Bradies, which is equally lovely and charming, are seen in so differently. To me they are are the same theme, two girls entering young adulthood at a great ball. Like Mai Mihara like last year, it is a snapshot of a moment in time - a young girl at a big dance. What bigger dance than the Olympic trials.
Really? Javi prerotates his 3Lz?
Well, other than Tiana who was also 19. topic:
Elsa is 21. She starts out as a princess in her movie.
Jason was second at Nationals in 2014 and they didn't send him to Worlds. They sent Max, the bronze medalist. So placement at Nationals is not determinative. Polina won 4CC's with a score lower than Mirai's silver medal the following year. But the point is, she had no senior record at all when she was chosen for the Olympic team. If they were going to bump someone for 4th place Ashley, it should have been Polina. MIrai had had her ups and downs but she had won a Grand Prix medal that season and had won other senior international medals in the past.
It's the music. One is ballet music by a great 20th century composer; the other is a somewhat insipid film score to a cartoon.
That said, I think Bradie's is a well-choreographed piece that works for her and tells its story--the tick-tock section helps. Also *she* clearly likes it and that's a big plus.
And it's not Moulin Rouge, Carmen or Swan Lake. So props for that.
Google shows all the results very fast: https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?59436-Pre-rotation&p=1435318&viewfull=1#post1435318I can't quite find it now on GS. There was a thread recently on prerotation on lutz jumps (I think it was BoP or Sam Skwanch) where they showed in slo-mo how the very good lutz jumps from Jin Boyang or Han Yan took off straight from the toe pick without the skater spinning on the pick. The very good lutz from ladies were also shown and Yuna Kim, Liz Tuks and Karen Chen barely turned 90 deg on their pick before launching and rotating. On the contrary, the not so goo ones like Shoma, Uno and Javi were showed havin their toe pick pre-rotating at least 180 deg or more on the ice before they are totally airborne which suggested that they cheated at least half a turn on ice and had less air time rotation.
And then there's the 2015 live action Disney film "Cinderella" which is what Bradie's using for her LP.
Elsa is 21. She starts out as a princess in her movie.
Some of those on the bad list don't even look like toe pick jumps in slo-mo. It's like they step/turn into the jump. Some of the "best" in the world get a 90-180 degree advantage on rotation by doing this, and it is shameful that the judges do not account for it.Google shows all the results very fast: https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?59436-Pre-rotation&p=1435318&viewfull=1#post1435318
Those jumps are not even toe jumps anymore since they use full blade to take off. Someone joked that those technique should be called “Floop”. But many of ladies jump that way. And some men jump that way. Ironically, they still get full BV and GOE for those “toe jumps”.Some of those on the bad list don't even look like toe pick jumps in slo-mo. It's like they step/turn into the jump. Some of the "best" in the world get a 90-180 degree advantage on rotation by doing this, and it is shameful that the judges do not account for it.
Since the judge's don't, it would be helpful if commentators like Tara and Johnny would point this out to audiences in slo-mos, to put some pressure on the judges.
Men's skating is a different issue than Ladies because of the quad. And Jason Brown *did* go to the Olympics that year. Polina Edmunds would have had international experience if the US had sent her to Junior Worlds after she won the Junior US title, which would have given her some senior assignments.
Mirai always has her ups and downs. It's great that she has a loyal fan base, but she doesn't have a record of coming through in a clinch. Even now, with a triple axel, she has major issues with the rest of her program that keep her out of the top flight. Or, if you want to flip this, a skater as experienced as Mirai *should* have been able to beat Polina Edmunds at Nationals that year. For that matter, she should have been able to place better than eighth at the Rostelecom Cup that season. The following year, she slid down to tenth in Nationals thanks to that infamous FS. Can you imagine if she'd delivered a FS like that at the Olympics? It could have happened. Just as a comparison, Gracie Gold's "awful" performance at Nationals last year landed her in sixth place.
Or, as you say below "Let the competitive results speak for themselves." Mirai's, that year, spoke for her. The hard truth is that she will never be a consistent skater. Ever. That means she'll have moments where she thrills skating fans, but she's not going to be treated by the skating federation the way she would if she were more reliable or known for delivering in a crunch. I wish her the best of luck and brilliant programs, but she's the *last* skater who should be given a pass over another skater. She's just too erratic.
Also Giselle in Enchanted is older, but she's not included in the Disney Princess line-up because Disney don't want to have to pay Amy Adams through the nose to use her likeness~