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I've been out of the skating loop for the last few months. Thanks for the update!
2017 CS Lombardia Trophy Free Dance
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I've been out of the skating loop for the last few months. Thanks for the update!
G/F got 1.38 for this? https://youtu.be/kte57n5mKqE?t=161
They were so inflated, not a surprise considering the comp is in Italy. The judges were so harsh with goe´s and PCS for Pavel and Alla.
They were so inflated, not a surprise considering the comp is in Italy. The judges were so harsh with goe´s and PCS for Pavel and Alla.
Ok, L/D program is so horrible I find it even amusing
Maybe that was intentional. First, it boggles the mind that they were allowed to inflict that on people and second, that is the silver medal-winning dance. Wow, goes to show that if there is speed and power, being able to dance and interpret your music is irrelevant.
Agreed. G/F were gifted in this competion. I never understood the appeal of this couple, and I fear the lovefest will only continue when and if C/L retire, and they become the reigning Italian ice dance team. Maybe judges are afraid of incurring the wrath of their coach, Barbara Fusar-Poli. She can kill someone with her death stare.:shocked:
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Check the speed and power, and particularly the ice coverage in the twizzles. Those are G&F's strengths. Lifts are 
always for them.
OTOH, if I could give 5 points of music penalties to L&D, I would. All that talking and Cell Block Tango on top of it.
UGH.
always for them.OTOH, if I could give 5 points of music penalties to L&D, I would. All that talking and Cell Block Tango on top of it.
UGH.
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Okay, another eye drops later, here we go with FD (this is the last one for today as I'm seriously tired...)
I actually dig the FD concept for Elliana and Alex, but again the actual choreography and expression...There's too much of literacy and superficial gestures put on display in place where lyrics are, it looks just silly for me. Next – Elliana again looked anything but focused, what's with those looks at sides? It really bothers me and derails my interes/focus on following their performance. The lifts are the strongest feature along with spin, but the rest is again very mediocre and looking too heavy and forced in actual execution. I feel that the program needs to be more sensual in a quiet way – not by sole gesture, but more by look and attitude presented.
As for Nazarova/Nikitin, I am a fan of 'Pirates of Carribean' for them – it's an energetic concept with storyline to carry on performance with and I feel like they are looking good in it. Again, LOVE all lifts and the innovation/creative element in some of their moves, it's always nice to see that from teams. The FD itself needs polish, cleaning of lines/some of lifts' exits and more of performance than just executing elements, but the idea and basis are there. I have my hopes for that FD
'Chicago' by Alla and Pavel got another meaning to that soundtrack for me – cluttered music cuts with equally cluttered choreography to match, I'm seriously lost. Saying that, I totally see them pulling off 'Chicago', BUT with a) different music cuts (less busy, less dialouge part), b) more controlled, polished choreography (Alla's 'jazzy hands' and arms in duet with Pavel's random leg kicks are seriously beyond me...) and c) better costuming (metalic, short dress for her with red lip along with some jazzy hairpiece and gloves, more 'dapper' costume for him). Like in SD, there is a big problem for me in their packaging which is poor and does little to do their skills justice. The 'randomness' of choreo, accidentality of expression (loud singing part does not automatically mean to throw your arms in the air, wave them franticaly, Alla) are killing my mojo watching them, making them looking amateurish and all over the place. They need to have more refinement and sophistication provided about that FD, and it has to be provided equally in choreography construction, musical custs and expression.
Making a referrence to Charlene and Marco, I want to say that I'd rather see a polished, crisp execution/performance of a concept not exactly suiting the team (Italians) than seeing a caricature of a fitting, matching idea of program (Russians). Muse is not exactly a music for Italians in my opinion – for me they look much better with more vibrant concepts and it really could get annoying seeing Barbara doing a recycling of 'hip' themes for Charlene and Marco. Saying that, I respect and appreciate their effort to make that music and choreo work, at least it looks quite controlled (aside of this aborted lift) and thoughtful in terms of what the choreography wants to highlight and what is the character/expression of the whole piece. I see the potential, but wishing they would something with more prominent storyline...
I actually dig the FD concept for Elliana and Alex, but again the actual choreography and expression...There's too much of literacy and superficial gestures put on display in place where lyrics are, it looks just silly for me. Next – Elliana again looked anything but focused, what's with those looks at sides? It really bothers me and derails my interes/focus on following their performance. The lifts are the strongest feature along with spin, but the rest is again very mediocre and looking too heavy and forced in actual execution. I feel that the program needs to be more sensual in a quiet way – not by sole gesture, but more by look and attitude presented.
As for Nazarova/Nikitin, I am a fan of 'Pirates of Carribean' for them – it's an energetic concept with storyline to carry on performance with and I feel like they are looking good in it. Again, LOVE all lifts and the innovation/creative element in some of their moves, it's always nice to see that from teams. The FD itself needs polish, cleaning of lines/some of lifts' exits and more of performance than just executing elements, but the idea and basis are there. I have my hopes for that FD
'Chicago' by Alla and Pavel got another meaning to that soundtrack for me – cluttered music cuts with equally cluttered choreography to match, I'm seriously lost. Saying that, I totally see them pulling off 'Chicago', BUT with a) different music cuts (less busy, less dialouge part), b) more controlled, polished choreography (Alla's 'jazzy hands' and arms in duet with Pavel's random leg kicks are seriously beyond me...) and c) better costuming (metalic, short dress for her with red lip along with some jazzy hairpiece and gloves, more 'dapper' costume for him). Like in SD, there is a big problem for me in their packaging which is poor and does little to do their skills justice. The 'randomness' of choreo, accidentality of expression (loud singing part does not automatically mean to throw your arms in the air, wave them franticaly, Alla) are killing my mojo watching them, making them looking amateurish and all over the place. They need to have more refinement and sophistication provided about that FD, and it has to be provided equally in choreography construction, musical custs and expression.
Making a referrence to Charlene and Marco, I want to say that I'd rather see a polished, crisp execution/performance of a concept not exactly suiting the team (Italians) than seeing a caricature of a fitting, matching idea of program (Russians). Muse is not exactly a music for Italians in my opinion – for me they look much better with more vibrant concepts and it really could get annoying seeing Barbara doing a recycling of 'hip' themes for Charlene and Marco. Saying that, I respect and appreciate their effort to make that music and choreo work, at least it looks quite controlled (aside of this aborted lift) and thoughtful in terms of what the choreography wants to highlight and what is the character/expression of the whole piece. I see the potential, but wishing they would something with more prominent storyline...
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