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Her flexibility looks like it's improved.
Compared to last year, I agree.
Her flexibility looks like it's improved.
I perceive "that one poster", moriel to be specific, as a user who contributes to this forum very much, makes perfect translations for us all and often making good points. Don't see her as a biased person and if she makes a claim that matters e. g. Medvedeva in a negative way, than it is not unprovoked useless claim. But I am one user with subjective opinion, of course.
Oh, come on. While there are those who appreciate moriel's contribution, she has used the "h" word in reference to herself towards Zhenya in one thread that she started (translating an Zhenya interview originally in Russian after Worlds). I was trying to look for that thread, somehow it disappeared? It was in response to another poster's reply to the thread (it was el_henry, the exchange was not unfriendly). I take no issue with moriel not liking Zhenya - its a free world, there's plenty of other skaters to like! And there are plenty of us who like Zhenya :luv17: But let's just not be disingenuous. People do pay attention, and remember things that others write.
So guys, in short. I know you feel I hate certain skaters.
But there is this thing - when i judge them in competition, i try to operate on facts and judges opinions as much as i can.
So when I say Zhenya's jumps and transitions were messy last season, its not because I dislike her, but because judges gave her 4 x 3V calls, 1x 3 call, 1x 2call and 1 x 1V call.
O, she has a back injury. (Tuktamysheva competed more and got just 5 lv3 spins last season if i didnt count wrong)
But what about lv3 step sequences? She got 7 stsq3 calls, out of 9 in her senior career. Numbers. Tuktamysheva (and we joke a lot here about Mishin choreo, or lack of it, got 8 stsq3 this season).
(and yes, i wonder how long it will take for the moderators to figure out that i troll other users by bringing numbers)
Opinions are a subject of change.
Someone writing something once does not mean it's never going to change. It can change from negative to neutral.
Oh, come on. While there are those who appreciate moriel's contribution, she has used the "h" word in reference to herself towards Zhenya in one thread that she started (translating an Zhenya interview originally in Russian after Worlds). I was trying to look for that thread, somehow it disappeared? It was in response to another poster's reply to the thread (it was el_henry, the exchange was not unfriendly). I take no issue with moriel not liking Zhenya - its a free world, there's plenty of other skaters to like! And there are plenty of us who like Zhenya :luv17: But let's just not be disingenuous. People do pay attention, and remember things that others write (even if, like in this this case, the thread disappeared).
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz1B-zNB4M3/?igshid=7cguu4uur0oj
Evgenia and Shae-Lynn Bourne will be working together on her Memoirs of a Geisha program! How exciting! :luv17:
Just in case, making it clear: I use the h word in reference to myself because people basically started calling me that after bringing in some objective remarks (which is the case when it pisses me off, like when I make a list based on numbers and people say I hate a skater for not putting her higher in the list, or a ridiculous case that happened somewhere on this forum, when I said Zhenya URd in a competition, and a user started bashing me for hating her. The UR was in the protocols).
Its just that I feel we need balance - if there are non objective fans, we need h people too. Light and Darkness, Good and Evil, blablabla =)
I disagree with quite a few of these, like defining inconsistent a skater who made literally 3 mistakes in the entire season, so this is my list
Group A
Zagitova - Olympic Champion, speed and transitions, reputation, unrefined artistry
Medvedeva - 2 times world champion, Olympic silver medalist, reputation, improving artistry, inconsistency with jumps and spins.
Tuktamysheva - Best jumping technique, 3A, consistency, lack of skating skills
Samodurova - European Champion, performance, consistency
Group B (they might well be A but they need to prove it on the senior circuit yet)
Trusova - quads, transitions, unpolished
Shcherbakova - great musicality and grace, 4ltz, a bit inconsistent
Kostornaya - Performance, consistency and jumps but no 3A or quads.
Konstantinova - inconsistency
Group C - some of them could be B but they are C due to lack of reputation or inconsistent results.
Sakhanovich - a bit inconsistent, but she got her GP spot.
Tarakanova - she is ready for seniors for me, but we'll see after the coach change.
Gubanova - she bombed those 2-3 events where she really needed to stay clean, inconsistent levels on the spins, some underrotation
Guliakova - same as Gubanova but with better jumping technique, better spins and worse artistry.
Tarusina - performance, consistency, borderline UR jumps, slow spins
Nugumanova - artistry, great spinner, inconsistent
Vasilieva - consistency, lack of performance.
Talalaykina - same as Gubanova and Guliakova on bombing key events, she also tends to UR her jumps sometimes.
Sotskova - let's say until Worlds 2018 she was in Group B, but if i have to rate last season it would be an F. Hopefully she can recover in this one.
Eteri's 3As will get in Group A once they achieve something in seniors, we shouldn't praise them for something that isn't there yet.
I agree almost with all except I think Sofia should be in group B and under 3A. She is just weaker then them almost in anything. Afterall a title doesn't make you an elite level skater.
Agreed but the thing is she has a status, 3A don't quite have yet. (they most likely will by the end of this season though)
Imagine if Shcherbakova bombs her SP at Skate America, she is a newcomer, marks won't be high if you start with a bad program she might not even end up on the podium.
While you have to give credit to Samodurova that as 11th at Nationals the year before she came at Skate America and medalled against all odds, if she throws a triple axel by the end of this season (they are working on it among other things) she will stay competitive.
Agreed but the thing is she has a status, 3A don't quite have yet. (they most likely will by the end of this season though)
Imagine if Shcherbakova bombs her SP at Skate America, she is a newcomer, marks won't be high if you start with a bad program she might not even end up on the podium. I'm not saying it will happen, but it can, we are human after all.
While you have to give credit to Samodurova that as 11th at Nationals the year before she came at Skate America and medalled against all odds, if she throws a triple axel by the end of this season (they are working on it among other things) she will stay competitive.
Agreed but the thing is she has a status, 3A don't quite have yet. (they most likely will by the end of this season though)
Imagine if Shcherbakova bombs her SP at Skate America, she is a newcomer, marks won't be high if you start with a bad program she might not even end up on the podium. I'm not saying it will happen, but it can, we are human after all.
While you have to give credit to Samodurova that as 11th at Nationals the year before she came at Skate America and medalled against all odds, if she throws a triple axel by the end of this season (they are working on it among other things) she will stay competitive.
What do you guys think the strategy will be for Sasha and Anna’s program layouts in their GPs? Do you think they will play it “safe” and just go for 1 quad each (maybe 2 for Sasha) or try to go for records with multiple quads? I am inclined to think they might play it on the safer side in order to qualify for the final, but who knows. It will be very different than in juniors where it didn’t matter if they messed up their quads because they were so far ahead of the competition the were going to win anyway.
What do you guys think the strategy will be for Sasha and Anna’s program layouts in their GPs? Do you think they will play it “safe” and just go for 1 quad each (maybe 2 for Sasha) or try to go for records with multiple quads? I am inclined to think they might play it on the safer side in order to qualify for the final, but who knows. It will be very different than in juniors where it didn’t matter if they messed up their quads because they were so far ahead of the competition the were going to win anyway.
What do you guys think the strategy will be for Sasha and Anna’s program layouts in their GPs? Do you think they will play it “safe” and just go for 1 quad each (maybe 2 for Sasha) or try to go for records with multiple quads? I am inclined to think they might play it on the safer side in order to qualify for the final, but who knows. It will be very different than in juniors where it didn’t matter if they messed up their quads because they were so far ahead of the competition the were going to win anyway.
The 3A do have pretty high status. They excelled on the junior circuit and they're coached by Eteri. In the grand scheme, I don't know if Sofia's Euros win means enough that she'll be so ahead of them at the beginning of the season, and medals on the GP (not the GPF) on their own aren't enough to really create lasting reputation so her Skate America win shouldn't mean that much now.