2022-2024 Team China Update

[yqs100]

Sui/ Han's dream finally came true！ what a competition！

As new season is about to start, what are the things we can expect from Team China？

1） looks like Sui/Han will take a break, not compete for this season？

2） Peng/Jin will continue？

3） Boyang JIn will continue？

4）Wang/ Liu have mentioned they definitely will continue, but will they be able to train in Canada？

5）Junior Pairs - from tik tok clips, Wang/ Huang changed partner？ Wang now is training with a taller skater （cant remember his name）

6） No news on new program yet... looks like the team is still enjoying the holidays （in XInjiang）


Any other update？

 

[otisgear]

Wang Yuchen appears to be training with Zhu Lei (who previously skated with Zheng Lu).
I also saw some rumours that Wang/Jia (the other junior pair that went to Junior worlds in 2020) had also split

Who even does Zhao have under him right now besides S/H and P/J? I'm assuming Zhang/Yang?? The future of Chinese pairs seem pretty bleak right now...

 

[fehervari]

Sui/ Han's dream finally came true！ what a competition！

As new season is about to start, what are the things we can expect from Team China？

1） looks like Sui/Han will take a break, not compete for this season？

2） Peng/Jin will continue？

3） Boyang JIn will continue？

4）Wang/ Liu have mentioned they definitely will continue, but will they be able to train in Canada？

5）Junior Pairs - from tik tok clips, Wang/ Huang changed partner？ Wang now is training with a taller skater （cant remember his name）

6） No news on new program yet... looks like the team is still enjoying the holidays （in XInjiang）


Any other update？

who will be able to participate and in what competitions? in a month there will be jgp in Courchevel. will there be a selection competition or is nobody going anywhere in this season too?

 

[fehervari]

Sui/ Han's dream finally came true！ what a competition！

As new season is about to start, what are the things we can expect from Team China？

1） looks like Sui/Han will take a break, not compete for this season？

2） Peng/Jin will continue？

3） Boyang JIn will continue？

4）Wang/ Liu have mentioned they definitely will continue, but will they be able to train in Canada？

5）Junior Pairs - from tik tok clips, Wang/ Huang changed partner？ Wang now is training with a taller skater （cant remember his name）

6） No news on new program yet... looks like the team is still enjoying the holidays （in XInjiang）


Any other update？

excuse me, my other question: is Chen Hongyi competing, can she still compete internationally?

 

[otisgear]

Sui and Han were back in the Beijing Kiss & Cry today aww

They were doing a masterclass on the Olympic ice and there was also some media event (?? not too sure). Peng/Jin and Wang/Liu were there too.

 

[otisgear]

Team China's JGP selections:

Ladies: AN Xiangyi, CHENG Jiaying
Mens: CHEN Yudong, TIAN Tonghe
Pairs: YANG Yixi/DENG Shunyang
Ice dance: LIN Yufei/GAO Zijian, YU Xinyi/LIU Tianyi

The selections were done online via video submissions and were streamed earlier today. There were originally two slots for pairs but only one junior pair submitted their video for selection so I guess they're getting both slots.
(A moment of silence for the future of Chinese pairs )

 

[fehervari]

Team China's JGP selections:

Ladies: AN Xiangyi, CHENG Jiaying
Mens: CHEN Yudong, TIAN Tonghe
Pairs: YANG Yixi/DENG Shunyang
Ice dance: LIN Yufei/GAO Zijian, YU Xinyi/LIU Tianyi

The selections were done online via video submissions and were streamed earlier today. There were originally two slots for pairs but only one junior pair submitted their video for selection so I guess they're getting both slots.
(A moment of silence for the future of Chinese pairs )

will there be two id teams? super. I was really hoping for that

 

[otisgear]

will there be two id teams? super. I was really hoping for that

Yep, each team will get 1 JGP. Actually there were 5 ID teams that submitted for selection. It's weird but they seem to have more reserves in the pipeline for dance than pairs at the moment.

 

[fehervari]

Yep, each team will get 1 JGP. Actually there were 5 ID teams that submitted for selection. It's weird but they seem to have more reserves in the pipeline for dance than pairs at the moment.

on the other hand, Yang and Deng may even be medal contenders. hopefully they get two tickets

 

[otisgear]

on the other hand, Yang and Deng may even be medal contenders. hopefully they get two tickets

I'm not too sure what the pairs JGP field looks like without the Russians, but Yang/Deng's content is a lot lower in difficulty than you would usually expect from chinese pairs. They have a triple twist but that's about it, all their other elements are doubles. Their throws are 2S and 2Lo, and they don't even have SBS 2A. They definitely wouldn't have medalled at junior worlds this year if they went.

 

[fehervari]

I'm not too sure what the pairs JGP field looks like without the Russians, but Yang/Deng's content is a lot lower in difficulty than you would usually expect from chinese pairs. They have a triple twist but that's about it, all their other elements are doubles. Their throws are 2S and 2Lo, and they don't even have SBS 2A. They definitely wouldn't have medalled at junior worlds this year if they went.

this is currently the highest level in juniors... the better ones - Safina/Berulava (GEO), Golubeva/Moore (AUS), McIntosh/Mimar (CAN) - got GP assigment and for them this season it will be easy to get good results in seniors (no Sui/Han, no Russians, retirements or changes e.g. Hase). there are still good pairs - for example Sierova/Khobta (UKR), Kucianova/Vochozka (CZE) - but all without triples. and... there is a new Japanese pair, maybe with 3Axels, who knows and Georgia must have bought some more Russian teams as they have plenty of spots...
anyway, I don't think the medal is impossible for Yang and Deng. I believe in them

 

[otisgear]

this is currently the highest level in juniors... the better ones - Safina/Berulava (GEO), Golubeva/Moore (AUS), McIntosh/Mimar (CAN) - got GP assigment and for them this season it will be easy to get good results in seniors (no Sui/Han, no Russians, retirements or changes e.g. Hase). there are still good pairs - for example Sierova/Khobta (UKR), Kucianova/Vochozka (CZE) - but all without triples. and... there is a new Japanese pair, maybe with 3Axels, who knows and Georgia must have bought some more Russian teams as they have plenty of spots...
anyway, I don't think the medal is impossible for Yang and Deng. I believe in them

Yea I get where you're coming from and I do hope Yang/Deng do well too but the level they're at right now is such a far cry from what we usually see from the Chinese Junior pairs. Even compared to Wang/Huang and Wang/Jia, the last baby pairs we've seen who didn't do that well at JGP a couple of years ago. Those pairs might've been inconsistent but at least they've landed triple throws/jumps before.

To be fair Yang/Deng switched to skating from gymnastics so I'd lower my expectations but they've been training pairs for (I think) more than 3 years now. They've made some progress but they're definitely not the same level as the kids who've been skating since they were 5 or 6. Actually the fact that Yang/Deng is the best Junior team that China can put out says a lot about how their pairs program has kinda collapsed in recent years

 

[fehervari]

Yea I get where you're coming from and I do hope Yang/Deng do well too but the level they're at right now is such a far cry from what we usually see from the Chinese Junior pairs. Even compared to Wang/Huang and Wang/Jia, the last baby pairs we've seen who didn't do that well at JGP a couple of years ago. Those pairs might've been inconsistent but at least they've landed triple throws/jumps before.

To be fair Yang/Deng switched to skating from gymnastics so I'd lower my expectations but they've been training pairs for (I think) more than 3 years now. They've made some progress but they're definitely not the same level as the kids who've been skating since they were 5 or 6. Actually the fact that Yang/Deng is the best Junior team that China can put out says a lot about how their pairs program has kinda collapsed in recent years

I just wanted to highlight that it isn't only China that is experiencing a sense of loss. for example, you can watch last weekend's Skate Canada NextGen Camp on Dailymotion. There are 4 pairs in this featured junior program. and Yang/Deng are a serious team compared to them. or if you look at it from that point of view, in the field of senior GP, the Crafoords (whom I love by the way) still have 2A as their strongest jump and they recently learned 3Tw...
the fact is that I care less about the difficulty of the technical elements than the quality of the skating. and in this I feel Ying/Dang is better and more complex than the 19/20 Chinese JGP teams (I was really worried about lovely Wang Yuchen crushing herself). a season earlier... Tang/Yang's SP was brilliant for sure. I rewatch it regularly.
but I talk a lot...

 

[MiraiFan]

What's happening with the young great hope from a few years ago--An something... She was also doing rhythmic gymnastics. Is she even competing now?

 

[ptvvibezz]

What's happening with the young great hope from a few years ago--An something... She was also doing rhythmic gymnastics. Is she even competing now?

She skated in the JGP assignment competition last week I think so. Here's a video of her FS

【22-23】安香怡｜第一名 (107.19) 中国JGP选拔赛女单自由滑_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

中国体育, 视频播放量 93137、弹幕量 239、点赞数 1552、投硬币枚数 53、收藏人数 346、转发人数 252, 视频作者 薄荷山茶hydrangea, 作者简介 休假中…花滑，喜欢青年组小女单，id和薄荷茶没关系～，相关视频：【花滑不正经解说】2022中国JGP选拔赛 认清现实 七人战队向米兰，【安香怡两套短节目clean】妮姐即将参加JGP【22-23花滑俱乐部联赛③】，【JGP选拔赛女单】妮妮、小贝拿到JGP入场券！，陈滢:如果她能赶上北京冬奥会的话，真的是中国现在女单的希望所在！2018年全国花样滑冰大奖赛 安香怡 冠军，安香怡 Voila 女单短节目...

www.bilibili.com

 

[fehervari]

Team China at JGP Czech Skate, Ostrava

Thursday, 01.09.2022
men's sp: Tian Tonghe 13:24 CET
women's sp: Cheng Jiaying 19:51 CET

Friday, 02.09.2022
id rd: Yu Xinyi / Liu Tianyi 13:35 CET

 

[yume]

She skated in the JGP assignment competition last week I think so. Here's a video of her FS

【22-23】安香怡｜第一名 (107.19) 中国JGP选拔赛女单自由滑_哔哩哔哩_bilibili

中国体育, 视频播放量 93137、弹幕量 239、点赞数 1552、投硬币枚数 53、收藏人数 346、转发人数 252, 视频作者 薄荷山茶hydrangea, 作者简介 休假中…花滑，喜欢青年组小女单，id和薄荷茶没关系～，相关视频：【花滑不正经解说】2022中国JGP选拔赛 认清现实 七人战队向米兰，【安香怡两套短节目clean】妮姐即将参加JGP【22-23花滑俱乐部联赛③】，【JGP选拔赛女单】妮妮、小贝拿到JGP入场券！，陈滢:如果她能赶上北京冬奥会的话，真的是中国现在女单的希望所在！2018年全国花样滑冰大奖赛 安香怡 冠军，安香怡 Voila 女单短节目...

www.bilibili.com

I was about to ask why CSA hadn't assigned her yet but just checked jgp solidarity cup and she's there.
Glad she can finally debut.

 

[icybear]

I was about to ask why CSA hadn't assigned her yet but just checked jgp solidarity cup and she's there.
Glad she can finally debut.

Pairs is pretty dead and Boyang hasnt won anything in years so I am very invested in her. Very high hopes for her first JGP win. I remember she once beat Isabeau Levito in a novice competition.

 

[yume]

Pairs is pretty dead and Boyang hasnt won anything in years so I am very invested in her. Very high hopes for her first JGP win. I remember she once beat Isabeau Levito in a novice competition.

There is Yudong too. Still rough but he has potential.

 

[yqs100]

The China club league was kicked off a few weeks ago.

Surprisingly we saw a few new young pairs with great potential, especially in Coach Luan Bo’s team

the pairs to watch:

1) Jiaxuan Zhang/ Yihang Huang ️️️️ （the new partnership is less than a year, but looks quite mature. SBS triple jumps all clean)
2) Yuchen Wang/ Lei Zhu ️️️ (Beautiful body line, solo jumps look good so far, Wang is too tall for pair skating, will see how they develop)
3) Siyang Zhang/ Yongchao Yang ️️️
4) YoumeI Sun/ Zeen Li ️️️️️ ( Sun is still very young, very easy qual twist. 3T and 3S solo jumps but throw jumps are not there yet. )