2023 Russian Nationals Women's Free Skate

[Jumping_Bean]

No, she’s the one that needs to chill as she’s the one on the ice, not the choreograper. The choreography gave her mediocre material, but it’s on her to make it look good. Solely blaming the choreographer for something like that is a cop-out. It’s like blaming the writer for a movie star’s terrible acting. He may have been given poor lines, but his delivery was still awful.

I disagree. There are a lot of actors that were given the label of "bad actor" because of their roles in certain films, but with different material, they show that they are brilliant and their "bad acting" is because they were instructed to act exactly like that by the directors.

What do you want her to do, do something completely different on the ice in competitions than what is being drilled into her head (and body - muscle memory!) every single day in training?

 

[yume]

I added clean 3Lo and 3F to her score and got 249.42.

Would have been almost 250. Even most men can't with her layouts.
I think this is the first nats where everyone got equally overscored.

 

[elektra blue]

Would have been almost 250. Even most men can't with her layouts.
I think this is the first nats where everyone got equally overscored.

wait for US Nats (Italian Nats were creative as well btw)

 

[yume]

I know Alina and Anna were Daniil's favs - Who is it now, Adeliia? Or did he inherit Kamila from Eteri, so she could find a new favourite?

Petrosyan got good programs but that doesn't mean anything.
Eteri is busy cooking her new favorite, so i suspect he inherited Kamila

 

[AlexBreeze]

During Liza's skates I worry not about the 3As, but about a 3+3, a 3Lo and a 3F.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

wait for US Nats (Italian Nats were creative as well btw)

Creative is the right word for Italian Nationals, and I honestly don't want to know what Ilia will score at US Nats - Almost all (bigger) feds overscore at least a portion of their skaters (usually the ones on the national team).

Generally, the most honest bigger fed Nationals are usually Japanese nationals (but not always, KanaDai's scores were actually pretty crazy for two falls) - They do overscore some skaters in comparison to the other skaters who competed, but mostly, they're pretty harsh on everyone.

 

[SXTN]

The speed, height, length, distance and landing of Kamila's 4T is spectacular. They look even better than last year with gained weight now.

 

[elektra blue]

see you tomorrow in Japan! we know who Santa is tonight, so be naughty love you all

 

[niks]

I didn't understand anything of what was said during the interview but it had a lovely vibe where everyone was happy and friendly with each other.

Kamila, even in defeat, was all smiles and congratulated Sofia in a way that looked very sincere. She seems like a cheerful and kind person. I'm warming up a lot to her

And I'm very happy for Liza's medal as well!

 

[Jontor]

wait for US Nats (Italian Nats were creative as well btw)

Yes, I think the Americans must have a +30 GOE scale

 

[yume]

wait for US Nats (Italian Nats were creative as well btw)

That's why i wrote most men

I will check Italian nats but Italy can't surprise me anymore after they gave 136 in the free to a Kostner with 2 clean triples.

 

[Jontor]

Just like in the short, this Nationals tied with 2019 as the highest scoring ever. 13 skaters got over 190 points.

This nationals would have beaten 2019 if only Paramonova scored 2 more points (i.e not fall on the Lutz).

 

[AlexBreeze]

 

[demarinis5]

I would hate to be a judge because these young women are all fabulous.
Great competition and Congrats the Medalists!!

 

[Mariiiiskate]

Im so worried about Samo now

 

[Skatelife]

Petrosyan got good programs but that doesn't mean anything.
Eteri is busy cooking her new favorite, so i suspect he inherited Kamila

Hahaha remember the last two olimpic champions were Danil's favorite

 

[Demandred]

I didn't understand anything of what was said during the interview but it had a lovely vibe where everyone was happy and friendly with each other.

They were very friendly and complementary of each other, Sofia was full of praise for the other two and they had plenty of praise for her too. It was nice to see.

 

[yume]

I know some will think she isn't the best example, but doesn't Kamila landing those quads prove that women's adult bodies can handle that? Yeah i know she's 16 but she isn't a typical 16yo Russian figure skater, skinny/tiny. Very far from being like Anna, Sasha, Aliona or even Medvedeva at the same age. She's actually bigger than Tuktik and i am not only talking about the height.

 

[Mawwerg]

I know some will think she isn't the best example, but doesn't Kamila landing those quads prove that women's adult bodies can handle that? Yeah i know she's 16 but she isn't a typical 16yo Russian figure skater, skinny/tiny. Very far from being like Anna, Sasha, Aliona or even Medvedeva at the same age. She's actually bigger than Tuktik and i am not only talking about the height.

Almost everyone is actually bigger than Tuktik. As for Kamila her quad toes are pure art.

 

[MCsAngel2]

I know some will think she isn't the best example, but doesn't Kamila landing those quads prove that women's adult bodies can handle that? Yeah i know she's 16 but she isn't a typical 16yo Russian figure skater, skinny/tiny. Very far from being like Anna, Sasha, Aliona or even Medvedeva at the same age. She's actually bigger than Tuktik and i am not only talking about the height.

I think the main thing with quads for women is where they are in the puberty process when they learn them. Kami and Sasha and Anna all learned them before their bodies got the better of them. Then once the bodies start changing, it's WAY harder to keep them. But then also the amount of time they train, the window they have to successfuly keep the quads is very short. The injuries start chasing them (see Sasha and Anna).

Then you have Elizaveta, who didn't even start learning the 4T until her 20s! She is the one I think is amazing. It is a shame that her 4T is so unstable, I would love to see her do it in comp sometime. I am just happy that she has the most consistent 3A of any woman skater in the world.