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Mawwerg said:Lutz 33(17)
Toeloop 31(18)
Salchow 14(4)
So can we conclude that the 4Lz and 4T are the easiest, the 4S is harder, and the 4Lo and 4F are virtually impossible (at least so far)?
Mawwerg said:Lutz 33(17)
Toeloop 31(18)
Salchow 14(4)
Looks like Rika is planning the 4S for NHK! (and 3Lz back in the FS?)
https://www.instagram.com/p/B5FQnd8pXgF/?igshid=135l6q573af4i
I dont really believe planned content since its sometimes doesnt get updated and they just slapped old layout or the desired content even though they have yet try it or even land the jump... like Gracie when she went to CoR last year she had 3Lz+3T and other set of triples she barely can landed in the practice, also Kailani here have 3Lo+3Lo planned but she ditched that since late last season i think? If she then ry to jump 4S and lutz in run thru/practice i'll believe itBut why the SP 3Lo?
So can we conclude that the 4Lz and 4T are the easiest, the 4S is harder, and the 4Lo and 4F are virtually impossible (at least so far)?
i think 4Lz is not that hard for Nathan and Boyang but yes Yuzu kind of struggle (ehem injuries...) I think 4S is trickier than we think, sure many men tried it and few women have attempt it both in competition and practices but many also struggles with it, i dont think many skater have more than 50/50 success on 4S unlike 4Lz/4TLo is harder to cheat the takeoff. T and Lz are quite easy to cheat. Presumably no one has felt the need to do a F yet; Sasha and Anna can also do a 4F.
In the men's field, at least if you look at Nathan and Yuzuru, both of them find 4T easy, 4S is ok, 4F is easy for Nathan, 4Lo is challenging for Yuzuru, 4Lz is hard for both. Makes you think why the women are doing 4Lzs.
So can we conclude that the 4Lz and 4T are the easiest, the 4S is harder, and the 4Lo and 4F are virtually impossible (at least so far)?
i think 4Lz is not that hard for Nathan and Boyang but yes Yuzu kind of struggle (ehem injuries...) I think 4S is trickier than we think, sure many men tried it and few women have attempt it both in competition and practices but many also struggles with it, i dont think many skater have more than 50/50 success on 4S unlike 4Lz/4T
In the men's field, at least if you look at Nathan and Yuzuru, both of them find 4T easy, 4S is ok, 4F is easy for Nathan, 4Lo is challenging for Yuzuru, 4Lz is hard for both. Makes you think why the women are doing 4Lzs.
Boyang's success rate on the 4Lz is touch and go recently. He used to have it down really nicely.
Nathan hasn't skated a 4Lz in his free for the GPs, but was happy to do a 4S, so...?
I dont really believe planned content since its sometimes doesnt get updated and they just slapped old layout or the desired content even though they have yet try it or even land the jump... like Gracie when she went to CoR last year she had 3Lz+3T and other set of triples she barely can landed in the practice, also Kailani here have 3Lo+3Lo planned but she ditched that since late last season i think? If she then ry to jump 4S and lutz in run thru/practice i'll believe it
http://twitter.com/beth_gifs/status/1197388159371423744
Does this mean anything to you? Sure, it's not perfect, but that's a pretty serious attempt at a 4S.
That’s one tiny ‘quad’. It looks almost like a triple if we’re being honest.
Quads frequently look tiny vs the same triple due to the more horizontal vector of momentum.
Better to rotate faster than having higher parabolic curve. Also, it makes the jump less costly, saving energy.
Better to rotate faster than having higher parabolic curve.