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I agree.
The judges should have gone with Pechalat & Bourzat in Saitama for the gold. :disapp:
Yep. I'm still not happy about that one. :sarcasm:
I agree.
The judges should have gone with Pechalat & Bourzat in Saitama for the gold. :disapp:
Chapis, the negativity is coming from former skaters who are now commentators, as well as coaches who are probably jealous. The fans, of course, love them immensely.
But these insiders can affect the judges, without them even realizing it.
Chapis, the negativity is coming from former skaters who are now commentators, as well as coaches who are probably jealous. The fans, of course, love them immensely.
But these insiders can affect the judges, without them even realizing it.
Last 8 years russian number 1 team - doesn't matter who- succesfully beaten by teams from bulgaria, france, usa, canada and even italians in 2010. Papadakis/Cizeron skates with amazing quality. This is why they are won. Can't believe Stepanova's ego. :disagree:
The skaters mentioned are both working for a rival group so why does their negativity count?
Actually for a team of 10 months, hardly,an almost 70 at the SD is what IK managed to do in the Olympic season if anything.
Sometimes I think people in Russia listen too much to the opinion of 'journalists' or 'insiders' and fail to see the big picture and unfortunately the skaters learn things like that. Obviously someone wanted to throw them off, cause someone is not happy, but the judges and specialists in the SD showed what they think of IZ very well.
And the politicking against P/C begins. P/C aren`t winning because they are France`s #1, it`s because their skills and programs are sooooo good. Honestly, IMO, it`s pretty clear that with B/S absence I/Z are considered Russia`s #1. S/B barely beat I/Z and that with numerous mistakes done by I/Z.
Can't wait for Worlds......if P/C do really well and win gold over W/P, Canadian FS journalists are going to lose their collective minds
If she can spend more time and energy on her SS, rather than ranting, would be better.
sisinka said:I must say that since Domnina & Shabalin’s Aboriginal dance hysteria in 2010, it is another situation when journalists and some people from skating world try to hunt and completely destroy some couple
The people destroyed by this dance were Linichuk & Karponosov, not Domnina & Shabalin.
And it was entirely self-inflicted. How can anyone who lived and worked in North America as long as they did be so clueless as to give a top-level couple so ridiculous and inappropriate a dance to perform at an Olympics in North America?
Linichuk has no high level teams any more and Karpanosov is back in Russia. What parent or student would risk a similar debacle?
And the Australians were the ones who complained first, not the media.
Of course, then it went viral, particularly because Canadian First Nations were a co-host of the Vancouver Olympics, so no one could belive the sheer stupidity. Most people blamed the coaches since no one expects skaters to be experts on etiquette everywhere in the world, but coaches are supposed to handle these nuances for their students.
It is never a good idea to insult your host or those people your host identifies with.
Thank you. You beat me to it.
It isn't always a conspiracy. Sometimes it's just plain stupidity.
Can someone please post a link to C/L's free dance? I cannot seem to find it anywhere on YouTube... Would like to see these major changes they made that required them to withdraw from their second grand prix.
Yes, my biggest complaint about the current judging system is that judges do not really mark the different PCS categories separately. They seem to just decide what they want a team to get overall, and then mark that for each of the components, within a .25 or .5 range, marking slightly lower the weakest categories, and slightly higher the strongest categories. I think it is really a travesty in some cases- in both directions (by which I mean some skaters get marked much higher in one component than deserved and some get marked much lower than deserved.
A team like Z/G, in my humble opinion, deserves in the 9's for IN, every time. They deserve probably in the high 8's for choreo. Some programs for choreo would deserve a 9. and Performance/Execution should usually be in the 8's (theirs is held back some by their lack of technical ability). Their SS should be in the 6's really, and their TR should be somewhere solidly in the 6's as well- perhaps even low 6's or high 5's.
Instead of just acknowledging that YES, a team can preform really really well in terms of interpretation and also have really extremely mediocre transitions, the judges give them all their component marks in the 7.5 range. It is just stupid.
Yes, I heard this earlier and was VERY sad. As I've said a few times in this thread, for pure viewing pleasure, letting go of 'tech ability and tech content', they are in my top 10 favorite teams of all time. I hope they will be skating in shows :/
Yes....the girl doesn't get nearly enough credit for the incredible things she does with her entire upper body. Cizeron has the better technique now, but for me she really brings the whole interpretation and musicality aspect alive for this team, IMO.Can I just say how much I love Gabriella's arms/ port de bras.
Can't wait for Worlds......if P/C do really well and win gold over W/P, Canadian FS journalists are going to lose their collective minds
Mind you I'm a fan of both teams and have been invested in W/P for much much longer than the French. This year though, P/C's programs appeal to me more than W/P's, which is completely not what I expected. Eh, maybe this season's programs are P/C's Riverdance and they come back next season with something lukewarm. If they win this season, then next season is W/P's for the taking. Worlds is going to be aaaaweeeeesomeeeee though!
The people destroyed by this dance were Linichuk & Karponosov, not Domnina & Shabalin.
And it was entirely self-inflicted. How can anyone who lived and worked in North America as long as they did be so clueless as to give a top-level couple so ridiculous and inappropriate a dance to perform at an Olympics in North America?
Linichuk has no high level teams any more and Karpanosov is back in Russia. What parent or student would risk a similar debacle?
And the Australians were the ones who complained first, not the media.
Of course, then it went viral, particularly because Canadian First Nations were a co-host of the Vancouver Olympics, so no one could belive the sheer stupidity. Most people blamed the coaches since no one expects skaters to be experts on etiquette everywhere in the world, but coaches are supposed to handle these nuances for their students.
It is never a good idea to insult your host or those people your host identifies with.