If liza gets two clean programms with 3 3a aljona shoudnt have a chance with her current tech arsenal.pcs or notThe last time (and only time I think...) Aliona and Liza competed against each other was the 2017-18 Nationals and they basically tied in PCS, with Liza coming out slightly ahead. https://www.fsrussia.ru/results/1718/rusnat1718_RUS/SEG004.HTM
Aliona was a first year junior at that point.
Not directly against each other, but at the GPF/JGPF Aliona outscored Liza in PCS by about a point.
Although I think Aliona should win PCS head to head (by a mile, across all categories), I’m not counting on it as the judges seem to rate new seniors a bit lower than they were rated as juniors. That being said, Aliona looks very senior, not only in her skating, but also in her musculature. Not to talk about young girls bodies, I think Anna is at a disadvantage vs. Sasha and Aliona who are more muscular and look physically more mature. It shouldn’t be like this and I hate even bringing this up, but I think this plays a role subconsciously in the judges minds.
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If liza gets two clean programms with 3 3a aljona shoudnt have a chance with her current tech arsenal.pcs or not
This is probably the case. Technical skaters who take extraordinary risk and succeed should finish ahead. When they fail, they should finish behind cleaner skates from athletes with superior artistry and skating skill. It doesn't always happen that way, but it should.
Congratulations to Tarakanova (68.14) and Vasilieva (67.52) who had clean skates today at JGP Poland. It will be a fierce battle between these two ladies in the long.
..and papa mishin knows all the judges himself up there in finnlandia. She will get decent pcs, what she clearly needs for reputation. Its close to st.petersburg anywayI think Liza might take a second challenger because she understands there’s a possibility of her not making it to worlds, and then her rating and sb become more crucial.
She’s done 2 because if she doesn’t, her chances of getting 2 gps might drop.
With Tarakanova, Sinitsina and Kanysheva possibly going senior next year, the chances of getting 2 gps might be getting slimmer. Possibly, a last year when a lot of skaters are getting a shot at GP.
But a risky decision in any way, let’s wait and see what they decide.
Im happy for Nastia‘s clean skate, although I feel like she’s really underscored in pcs again, 7,2 is not the score for SS she deserves... :-/
I think both Nastia and Tomoe could’ve been scored above 70, imo.
Overall though, I’m satisfied with the judging at Gdańsk actually. The panel didn’t go full berserk, but even with careful calls, it came to a satisfactory result. Let’s just say, a few calls I’ve been talking about during earlier competitions finally being made, made a huge difference in scores lol. Given those athletes competed with the relatively same quality of performances. Oh wow, how proper judging can drop some scores! Ehm... good job, judges in Poland, some other judges should be taking notes. Now give Nastia higher pcs for SS, and reward Tomoe more please
Inna Goncharenko: Does Medvyedeva skate her old content? What does this mean?
Anatoliy Samokhvalov The figure skating season is gaining momentum, the 2018 Olympic champion Alina Zagitova is impressive, but hasn't started yet, the two-time world champion Yevgeniya Medvyedeva gets criticism, but already posted some results. Inna Goncharenko, Merited Coach of Russia, discusses the latest news with Anatoliy Samokhvalov, and the conversation began with the results of the recent junior Grand Prix in Chelyabinsk.
Danielyan is stronger than Gumennik
“The Grand Prix in Chelyabinsk went great when it comes to women's single skating,” Goncharenko said. "Well done everybody! Usually, we are talking in enthusiastic terms about the same skaters, but the Chelyabinsk stage showed that others also exist and they are also good. Kseniya Sinitsyna showed a completely new direction. Yes, she is without quads so far, but has very chic programs, especially her short one, which I have already praised for very successful staging for this specific athlete.
Sinitsyna’s free program was also successful, I’ll note the very accurate match with the dress. I remember when Mariya Sotskova skated, she also had interesting programs, beautiful dresses and various other finds, which were clearly chosen for her. A similar process is observed in the development of Sinitsyna. In these programs, the skater has become even better in sliding and jumping.
I also really want to talk about Arthur Danielyan.
Q: Arthur was in the lead with a good margin after his short program at the Grand Prix in Chelyabinsk, but lost the first place in the fight against Peter Gumennik. Danielyan replaced the quad Salchow with a triple and made mistakes in his program.
A: Nevertheless, I was very surprised by his mature skating, particularly in his short program, which was very well developed. In my opinion, Gumennik won only due to the fact that Danielyan made a mistake in his free. In skating, in his delivery, in the staged programs, he is stronger. For me, he was the undisputed leader of this stage. I remember Gumennik in children's competitions, I know him as a very artistic boy. When he skated with (Alexei) Mishin, he had very interesting finds in the rotations, he himself was a very 'dancing' skater, hearing music, but now I haven't seen anytfrom this. Where did it all go?
Now here is Danielyan, who was not particularly emotionally involved last season, beginning to smile in his routines. Ear to ear in his short, which is amazing. I understand a strong team exists in CSKA and there is someone to work with, the result is obvious. Respect for the coaches and respect for the boy himself. I am absolutely not a fan of Danielyan, but this season he is a completely different skater.
Q: His free program, to the powerful sounds of "Gladiator."
A: After (Alexey) Yagudin, this topic is not interesting to me regarding the performance of others. I am very critical of the boys, because it is time for them to star in the good sense, it's not only for the girls to shine. Therefore, when I see talented boys, I want them to progress, rather than stagnate or even worse, regress. Here Danielyan fired off in the short, and most importantly, so that later we would not talk about his routines in the spirit of "well, yes, well, nothing like that." Because this "well, yes, well, nothing" happens to us in men's single skating every year.
On Medvyedeva's Axel, I flinched
Q: How did you like Yevgeniya Medvyedeva at the Autumn Classics in Canada, where she only lost to Rika Kihira's triple Axels?
A: I am very glad Zhenya is fighting, performing and showing interesting new programs. I really like the staging of her short program, this is my favourite staging by Ilya Averbukh due to sophisticated choreography. Lightness, ease, unobtrusiveness.
I would like to wish Zhenya to achieve more speedy and airy skating, because with such light music I want her to fly.
I would like to add speed and complexity to her rotations, continue to work on her Lutz' edge to make the edge more confident and clear.
She made me shudder on her Axel in the long program, because I had a feeling that Axel was on the verge (of failure). I want a confident execution of that jump.
Q: Let's say Medvyedeva adds lightness, speeds up. Will she be competitive with Aleksandra Trusova, Anna Shcherbakova, Kihira?
A: I think so, because there is no need to be afraid of Kihira or any other competitor. Clearly she already has different skating and from the outside, our perception of her is also different. Zhenya needs to look forward.
Q: Different skating, what about this? Someone notices it, and someone say she performs her old content anyway.
A: Well, everyone is skating their old content, how to put it, their stock of knowledge?
Q: What did Brian Orser add to the skating of this two-time world champion?
A: More balanced skating. Because she doesn't have her previous power and sharpness, her skating at this stage is not always embraced. At the same time her skating has become more balanced and feminine. If there are fewer jumps, faster rotations and more diverse positions, everything will be fine.
Q: How did you like Yelizaveta Tuktamysheva at the tournament in Lombardy?
A: In my opinion, she skated worse than even in the Open Test Skates. But her triple Axel is light and good. What can I say, well done, she fights, just best forget this “troika” of hers, which she often does after the Axel. Because she can exit cleanly from the jump.
Q: The champion of Russia Shcherbakova beat her in Bergamo.
A: It was one thing when Shcherbakova competed amongst the young girls, and now amongst seniors, each time the question arises: "How will the judges perceive her?" And this issue will be relevant in the near future.
In the short program, for obvious reasons, she does not have quads, and the judges, in fact, did not react to her skating. In her free program, "ultra-si" appeared, and the judges were affected, they awarded "higher" and "better". She jumped, did everything, and won. Anna may wish to fight with what she can - jumping. She cannot compete for extreme skating and femininity yet, because she is still a little girl with elastic arms, but underneath all this footwork, she works and works.
Q: In general, at season's start, Zagitova, still untried, looks better than everybody?
A: She looks more experienced and professional.
Q: Even against the background of Medvyedeva and Tuktamysheva?
A: Against the background of everyone - more professional and more confident. Zhenya is looking less confident in her skating due to loss of speed and “prowess”.
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I find it interesting that Petr leaves Mishin and now she has criticism for him and nothing but good things to say about Artur. Artur who happens to train at CSKA where I believe Inna has connections.
I agree with this but I worry. If JGPF was merely defined by placements I wouldn't mind so much but it is going to come down to points. These skates last week could have gotten 72+ with the way the scoring was looking and those are four valuable points for Nastya and Tomoe. Moreover, Nastya has already been victim to harsh scoring at Lake Placid compared to other assignments leading to her score being quite so low which means that whilst the scoring here might be fair and the best scoring on the jgp this year it still is going to mess up the skaters here and negatively affect them.
I take what Inna says with a grain of salt considering how horrible Elena Radionova was in the artistic department. I find it interesting that Petr leaves Mishin and now she has criticism for him and nothing but good things to say about Artur. Artur who happens to train at CSKA where I believe Inna has connections. It's always about politics and she has so many things to say now when she hardly ever spoke before. This is her second big interview this season.
"Russian figure skating coach Inna Goncharrenko can pursue a career in China, journalist Vasiliy Konov reports in his Telegram channel.
According to the source, the local figure skating federation is interested in Russian specialists to prepare their skaters for the home Olympics, which will be held in Beijing in 2022.
Recently, Inna Goncharenko shared her thoughts on the new short program of Yelizaveta Tuktamysheva, which was staged by the Canadian choreographer Shae-Lynn Bourne. As well as the program “Girl on the Ball” performed by 13-year-old Kamila Valiyeva, praising the skater."
I take what Inna says with a grain of salt considering how horrible Elena Radionova was in the artistic department. I find it interesting that Petr leaves Mishin and now she has criticism for him and nothing but good things to say about Artur. Artur who happens to train at CSKA where I believe Inna has connections. It's always about politics and she has so many things to say now when she hardly ever spoke before. This is her second big interview this season.
And how is this observation relevant to the Russian Ladies Figure Skating thread?
Obviously, an ex coach with such distinction has her own secret agenda of sorts, and perhaps a bone or two to pick, or some pet peeves otherwise. Still, she is a most interesting source.
From another press source I learned that Chinese fed is still interested in hiring Goncharenko for their pre-Olympic program, but the article didn't state she accepted the offer or not.
https://nevasport.ru/94895-gonchare...-podgotovki-kitajskih-figuristov-k-olimpiade/
There are so many interesting articles, press releases and blogs at the moment, I hardly can keep up ;-)
I think Liza might take a second challenger because she understands there’s a possibility of her not making it to worlds, and then her rating and sb become more crucial.
She’s done 2 because if she doesn’t, her chances of getting 2 gps might drop.
With Tarakanova, Sinitsina and Kanysheva possibly going senior next year, the chances of getting 2 gps might be getting slimmer. Possibly, a last year when a lot of skaters are getting a shot at GP.
But a risky decision in any way, let’s wait and see what they decide.
I take what Inna says with a grain of salt considering how horrible Elena Radionova was in the artistic department. I find it interesting that Petr leaves Mishin and now she has criticism for him and nothing but good things to say about Artur. Artur who happens to train at CSKA where I believe Inna has connections. It's always about politics and she has so many things to say now when she hardly ever spoke before. This is her second big interview this season.
If liza gets two clean programms with 3 3a aljona shoudnt have a chance with her current tech arsenal.pcs or not