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Zhenya and Alina in JW ? Cool, I would look at that.
And such cheap tickets to see such great skaters.
Zhenya and Alina in JW ? Cool, I would look at that.
Why would be hurtfull. Its not like they are 18. They are still 15/16. And two of them don't have that title. Not to say that the competition there is almost at the same level as will be their competitors at Senior Worlds (Valieva, Sinitsyna, Liu, Lee, Usacheva all scored 200+ already). Many known skaters skated seniors competitions and attended Junior Worlds in the same season.
Why would be hurtfull. Its not like they are 18. They are still 15/16. And two of them don't have that title. Not to say that the competition there is almost at the same level as will be their competitors at Senior Worlds (Valieva, Sinitsyna, Liu, Lee, Usacheva all scored 200+ already). Many known skaters skated seniors competitions and attended Junior Worlds in the same season.
In all honesty, most comments are made based on the current situation, since the future is hard to predict. I'm assuming that comment was made around JGPF, and can you honestly say that at the time it didn't sound possible?
I don’t think she’s (Kostornaia) leave mid season, but I would bet big money she leaves this off season....
...Eteri method is cut throat, especially if you aren’t the #1 priority. I could completely understand her wanting a different training environment in the near future.
There are many skaters who do Senior GP and then wind up at Junior Worlds. However, none of those skaters are at the same level as the 3A. At this point for those girls, I think it is better from a perception point of view to be the 4th best senior lady in Russia than Junior World Champ. It's not really logical. But I think it is how perception works sometimes.
Why would be hurtfull. Its not like they are 18. They are still 15/16. And two of them don't have that title. Not to say that the competition there is almost at the same level as will be their competitors at Senior Worlds (Valieva, Sinitsyna, Liu, Lee, Usacheva all scored 200+ already). Many known skaters skated seniors competitions and attended Junior Worlds in the same season.
Nope, it was made at the beginning of november (Anna was two time JGP winner that time). The same user gifted us with another prediction at that time:
I hope the loss of money wasn't that big...
Why I was posting those several quotes is because I see people making wild predictions again. Let's be careful and don't mischange wishful thinking for reality.
They are currently competing in seniors, and trying to build a rep in seniors. Sending them to JW basically says "nah, those girls are still raw and juniorish".
If i would a judge, I would totally write that down.
If rusfed wanted them at junior worlds this year, they would have kept one of the girls in juniors, or even two of them.
While I think there are probably strong political forces at play that do NOT want to send 3 girls from the same coach to Euros/Worlds, I think that by the time the team is picked, it will be clear that a combo of the 4A (and not Liza or Zhenya) has a very strong chance to sweep the Worlds podium. I hope that is RusFed's goal - send the team most likely to do a sweep. In which case Liza and Zhenya would probably be left off (unless the 4A have some unexpected bad results on the GP series).
They sent Stanislava at senior competitions and juniors World in the same season tho, as they did with some other skaters in the past. And that didn't stop the judges to place her second at the senior grand prix competition next season. Other federations did that too (Italy with Grassl, France with Siao Him Fa, Japan with one of their lady last season etc). Judges know how strong competition is in Russia, as they are aware that 15/16 yo is still a junior eligible skater, the same way he/she can be a senior
Has anyone ever gone to JW after competing on the senior GP? Because all of the skaters you mentioned competed as seniors at B competitions but were in the JGP in the season they went to JW.
Yuna Shiraiwa last season. There are other examples from the past.
Wouldn't it be more polite to engage the poster directly, rather than talk about them behind their back?
Although I'm not sure what point is made to "call out" a wrong prediction. We all make them, and it doesn't say anything about a particular skaters' merits
But who would they even send out of the 3A? Only Anna would make sense now that Aliona has her 3A back because in juniors she wouldn’t be able to use it in the SP to gain an advantage. This is assuming Sasha is the #1 Russian this season.
Rusfed has 2 very strong juniors in Kamila and Ksenia, with Usacheva, Vasilieva and maybe Kanysheva if she recovers fighting for the 3rd spot. Not to mention Tarakanova, Khromykh and Frolova who also medaled in the JGP. With Liu and Haein also fighting for podium positions, it’s unlikely Russia will be able to sweep junior worlds this year anyway.
i think it would be very foolish and unwise to send one of 3A to jr worlds, and if they did, i bet it would be Alena since she missed it last year. those 3 are part of the creme of the crop in the entire world and could sweep the senior world podium themselves, they have already more than proved themselves as top seniors only a month into the season. would they really rather a jr world medal than a possible 3 at senior worlds?
i think it would be very foolish and unwise to send one of 3A to jr worlds, and if they did, i bet it would be Alena since she missed it last year. those 3 are part of the creme of the crop in the entire world and could sweep the senior world podium themselves, they have already more than proved themselves as top seniors only a month into the season. would they really rather a jr world medal than a possible 3 at senior worlds?
Will they let them though? Considering the judging at SA
1) first 3Lz+3Lo bogus call https://youtu.be/geLNanWq92w?t=100
2) second 3Lz+3Lo bogus call https://youtu.be/X3Fs_06zT6k?t=137
I think not. They'll find a way - unless Rika, Kaori and Bradie will be lying on the ice the whole program, of course :sarcasm:
P.S.: I fully expect the same approach for Sasha jumps in SC judging, btw. In before I would recommend them to get rid of +Lo combos altogether - not because of instability - but because it's harder to forge UR calls on +3T combos since the jumps are not that fast there and usually more rotated.
To my eyes those UR calls were bogus, yes. I am no technical expert, but could it be that if you don't have a good running edge out of the jump that they can "suspect" an underrotation because of that? Clearly, Anna was almost at a stand still at both these 3Loops so it wasn't the best. But from those angles you showed...no URs imo.