2016 NHK Trophy Short Dance

[auser]

It's easy to admire the taste when the taste is all 31 baskin and robbins flavours plus a few more. All I want to know is sugar, waffle or regular cone?

Says something about my expansive view of eye candy erm I mean artistry

 

[ice coverage]

Keep in mind that the BV is higher here due to the use of a Partial step sequence instead of a second pattern dance (the +GOE scale of values for a pattern is also lower). So really 79 here is probably like a 77 or 76 back in 2014.

It's not a perfect comparison.

I understand that and given that fact, judging should have been adjusted accordingly. I admire V/M and this performance and they clearly bested P/C but this scoring practice is ridiculous.

I don't see any reason that the judging should have been adjusted.

The judges here at NHK -- and at all comps this season -- should judge the elements required for this season's SD.

(As for scoring, the ISU recognizes only "highest scores." It does not recognize "world records." An avoidance of comparing across different seasons.

http://www.isu.org/en/single-and-pa...ncluding-personal-bestseason-best-information)​

 

[sunn1ly]

Since we don't have here a live TV coverage I decided to sleep this over and I woke up to see Tessa and Scott results. So very happy for them. :hap93:

 

[ancientpeas]

Dog just demanded his third dinner. He's confused by me being up so late. Asian events when you are in EDT suck (for us, not those in Asian time who have to put up with it during SA and SC)

 

[SarahSynchro]

Dog just demanded his third dinner. He's confused by me being up so late. Asian events when you are in EDT suck (for us, not those in Asian time who have to put up with it during SA and SC)

I wish my dog could have 3AM weekend play dates with your dog while we watch Asian competitions and post on GoldenSkate.

 

[ancientpeas]

I wish my dog could have 3AM weekend play dates with your dog while we watch Asian competitions and post on GoldenSkate.

so would I. Except Eli does not play well with others. He's a bully who needs to dominate every dog he meets. It's an issue.

 

[SarahSynchro]

Are you kidding........I need details..

me too apparently LOL

Don't think I'm not aware of your not so secret practice of locker room recruiting for more men to add to the list. mrrice is probably your accomplice. The gig is up, boys! Confess now and accept the plea bargin or prepare for a lengthy trial!

 

[SarahSynchro]

so would I. Except Eli does not play well with others. He's a bully who needs to dominate every dog he meets. It's an issue.

I don't know, has he ever come across a female chihuahua? She's the master bully of the canine species.

Maybe their bully behaviours would cancel each other's out.

Emojis we need to get on GoldenSkate ASAP: a dog emoji, a rooster emoji, a cherry "coke" emoji...

 

[Matt K]

While V/M's was clearly the best in the group, I think, they were over-scored. The calibre of D/W's Olympic SD is still unmatched. Watch and compare _ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61wv8v7cFLk and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ndxb3VTQ0

D/W's Foxtrot was not at all a Foxtrot, but a Waltz. They committed the cardinal sin of ice dancing, while at an Olympic games. Also, D/W had much less power and flow and all I notice from that SD of theirs is jumping on flats with shallower edges than V/M's current SD.

P/C could have taken the lead if they had not skated so cautiously and nervously. They didn't look great today.

D/W's SD record was going to broken eventually. If that "Foxtrot SD" is of any indication, their "record" would not have stood in the in the next quadrennial.

 

[Silvia451]

While V/M's was clearly the best in the group, I think, they were over-scored. The calibre of D/W's Olympic SD is still unmatched. Watch and compare _ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61wv8v7cFLk and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ndxb3VTQ0

I think if D/W had skated today the same program, exactly the same performance, they would have got a higher score. It's the same for ladies competitions..for me Medvedeva's wr is nothing compared to Yuna's. But the scores in general got higher.

 

[all that]

Gabby makes a mis-step about halfway through the non-touch step. I'm not sure how much it affects the levels, but it was a glaring error even to a relatively ice dance novice like me.

That isn't a misstep- that's part of the choreography. Watch the SD from French trophy and you'll see it there as well.

 

[NoNameFace]

powered laptop just to check on results and boy... I'm suprised as heck, but positively seeing Tessa and Scott right on their track and wowzas on that score! Will re-watch top 6 (as Polish are on sixth ) and eventually post my - as always - too long thoughts on SD.

And finally some good draw for Tessa and Scott in FD,it's been a while I think...Battle would be epic, because Gabriella and Guillaume can easily take it looking at scores they're getting for FDs, Tessa and Scott have to be foot-perfect on tech side, probably will get up at 3.30 AM hopelessness to watch this, wish me luck!

and celebration over perfect score in pairs

 

[Mrs. P]

That isn't a misstep- that's part of the choreography. Watch the SD from French trophy and you'll see it there as well.

Well they made errors somewhere then... I have no clue.

 

[daphenaxa]

my babies had a tech mistake i see

 

[yuna13]

This is so unfair! Yes v/m were better but not 4 points better! The tech judges just killed the competion. The French didn't make mistake and they are 4 points behind!!!

 

[Alextim]

This is so unfair! Yes v/m were better but not 4 points better! The tech judges just killed the competion. The French didn't make mistake and they are 4 points behind!!!

Totally agree ... but season is long and other panel will correct this

 

[maddiesparks]

Would love for Tessa and Scott to hit 80 at GPF. That was such a fabulous SD!

 

[lauravvv]

The French didn't make mistake and they are 4 points behind!!!

Step sequence mistakes/imperfections in ice dancing are not always readily visible. It may be a barely noticeable stumble, not even visible from all angles, or even just an imperfect edge - even less apparent.

Totally agree ... but season is long and other panel will correct this

I think that rather Papadakis/Cizeron and Lauzon/Dubreuil/Haguenauer will correct this, not technical panels. I don't see why this particular technical panel should have been biased towards P/C and V/M. It is likely that Gabriella and Guillaume did indeed have some small imperfections in their partial step sequence which were simply unvisible (or practically invisible) to a non-expert eye which very often happens in ice dancing.

 

[nolangoh]

Well they made errors somewhere then... I have no clue.

In France, that 'stumble" was a clearly part of the playful choreography. But this time, I really can't tell whether it was intentional or accidental at the first time...I won't be surprised if the judges read that as a mistake

 

[SimplyLex]

I'm actually really, really glad with the results today. In the past two years I have the impression that everyone started to think P/C are like the all-time best team and the champions of forever, whereas in reality, in my opinion, there is still so much more they could improve on. Gabi is still falling behind and visibly weaker than her partner. Technically they're definitely not there yet. Just because they have a great chemistry or style doesn't mean they have surpassed, or even reached, the level of V/M and D/W at their peak. Because they haven't. And I'm really glad it's visible now.