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2017 Internationaux de France Short Dance
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On screen it seems smaller but I don't know for sure.
No, it's olympic size (60x30). So I don't know...
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As usual, commentary from the Olympic Channel and we have Charlie White this week !
As usual, commentary from the Olympic Channel and we have Charlie White this week !
I noticed that crash and was worried about Andrew the whole time
I think it’s Andrew injured, not Kaitlyn. There’s a picture showing him with a physiotherapist or a doctor.
So I rewatched with Charlie White's commentary, so time to break out the scores a bit more.
P/C :
Great pattern, you could see really the difference with the other teams, it was really big, clean and very deep edges.
NO-touch was clean too and level4 !
Twizzles : Guillaume did one extra rotation, fortunately for them not one less otherwise they would have been dinged on levels. They were lucky to have clean twizzles, but they lost a bit on GOEs.
Pst3, which is a bit of a surprised, but I think the tech panel saw things we can't always asses with camera work. They actually got the max GOEs on this element, but not surprising they often get high GOEs on steps even if it's level3.
The lift has a bit of point margin, a couple of a hundreds of mark, but that could be crucial in a face-off.
General impression : they sold the hell out of it, especially Gaby, and if they get that missing level they'll close the gap drastically. Latin SD suits them very well.
Chock/Bates :
They still go on their twizzles with hesitation and that's why they don't get as much GOEs as the others. That's a pity because they rotate really well (it wasn't perfect here, but the hesitation showed a bit much...)
Pst3 : I liked their Pst ! but it could use some more refined moves and edges and they could get that level4. But a Pst to a fast music isn't easy.
For the pattern they got level3 AGAIN... their score cannot improve with that, it's crucial. It's the last Key Points, so the last steps aren't deep enough in terms of edges I think (well the TS thinks).
That lift should get maximum points, it's a scandal. EPIC.
For the No-touch they got level3 which is good, but couples of glitches so not a lot of GOEs.
General impression : they could attack the program more to get those extra PCS. It's growing on me though, and the first steps on the music are everything ! But they need level4 rumba AND at least on of the step sequences level4 or they are not going to compete against Shibs or H/D correctly. Latin should be their strength.
Step/Bukin :
They have impressive execution on twizzles but Ivan almost lost it at the beginning, so GOEs down.
Only level2 Rumba, clearly not enough to go up.
The lift was nice and well timed.
Pst3 but not a lot of GOEs, and the construction of isn't organic enough for them to move naturally and use their glide which they could get a lot of points from.
I really like the No-touch it's just well executed and timed, the music is a +3 for me at the end, it gets the crowd going.
General Impression : In what world, those 2 who I think have amazing SS, execute their rumba like that ? It's not as much a matter of abilities, but they haven't been taught properly the rumba I think. They have all the goods to get level4, but their execution on the patter isn't good. Otherwise good program, very crowd pleasing.
Guignard/Fabbri :
Best twizzles of the night.
Their pattern was very well attacked, fast and powerful. Edges were good. I'm surprised at the GOEs, they coud have gone higher...
Pst3, well executed. The lift could have a more wow moment but goes well with the music.
I liked the No-touch, fast yet well done, Marco might have had a glitch on one of the twizzle.
General impression : I get the PCS, however, I would have had the tech higher.
WeaPo :
Let me cry :sad21: Actually Andrew crashed into the boards at the beginning, it might have affected him. Hope they're okay.
They started their Pst, I was like : "wow, okay, I found WeaPo circa 2015, the edges are deep and so good, they're going to own it maybe get level4".
Rumba 3 here... their pattern honestly could be much better, since the Pst was deep in edges, the pattern could show that same strenght.
Let's not talk about twizzles
The No-touch was good and so was the lift, they didn't let the mistake affect that thankfully.
I hope the judges won't hold that against them because that Pst at the beginning got me. It was SO good !
For the top 5 : only one pattern level4, no Pst4, and only one No-touch 4.
Actually the teams performed really well minus WeaPo (well just for the mistake, the rest was very good).
P/C :
Great pattern, you could see really the difference with the other teams, it was really big, clean and very deep edges.
NO-touch was clean too and level4 !
Twizzles : Guillaume did one extra rotation, fortunately for them not one less otherwise they would have been dinged on levels. They were lucky to have clean twizzles, but they lost a bit on GOEs.
Pst3, which is a bit of a surprised, but I think the tech panel saw things we can't always asses with camera work. They actually got the max GOEs on this element, but not surprising they often get high GOEs on steps even if it's level3.
The lift has a bit of point margin, a couple of a hundreds of mark, but that could be crucial in a face-off.
General impression : they sold the hell out of it, especially Gaby, and if they get that missing level they'll close the gap drastically. Latin SD suits them very well.
Chock/Bates :
They still go on their twizzles with hesitation and that's why they don't get as much GOEs as the others. That's a pity because they rotate really well (it wasn't perfect here, but the hesitation showed a bit much...)
Pst3 : I liked their Pst ! but it could use some more refined moves and edges and they could get that level4. But a Pst to a fast music isn't easy.
For the pattern they got level3 AGAIN... their score cannot improve with that, it's crucial. It's the last Key Points, so the last steps aren't deep enough in terms of edges I think (well the TS thinks).
That lift should get maximum points, it's a scandal. EPIC.
For the No-touch they got level3 which is good, but couples of glitches so not a lot of GOEs.
General impression : they could attack the program more to get those extra PCS. It's growing on me though, and the first steps on the music are everything ! But they need level4 rumba AND at least on of the step sequences level4 or they are not going to compete against Shibs or H/D correctly. Latin should be their strength.
Step/Bukin :
They have impressive execution on twizzles but Ivan almost lost it at the beginning, so GOEs down.
Only level2 Rumba, clearly not enough to go up.
The lift was nice and well timed.
Pst3 but not a lot of GOEs, and the construction of isn't organic enough for them to move naturally and use their glide which they could get a lot of points from.
I really like the No-touch it's just well executed and timed, the music is a +3 for me at the end, it gets the crowd going.
General Impression : In what world, those 2 who I think have amazing SS, execute their rumba like that ? It's not as much a matter of abilities, but they haven't been taught properly the rumba I think. They have all the goods to get level4, but their execution on the patter isn't good. Otherwise good program, very crowd pleasing.
Guignard/Fabbri :
Best twizzles of the night.
Their pattern was very well attacked, fast and powerful. Edges were good. I'm surprised at the GOEs, they coud have gone higher...
Pst3, well executed. The lift could have a more wow moment but goes well with the music.
I liked the No-touch, fast yet well done, Marco might have had a glitch on one of the twizzle.
General impression : I get the PCS, however, I would have had the tech higher.
WeaPo :
Let me cry :sad21: Actually Andrew crashed into the boards at the beginning, it might have affected him. Hope they're okay.
They started their Pst, I was like : "wow, okay, I found WeaPo circa 2015, the edges are deep and so good, they're going to own it maybe get level4".
Rumba 3 here... their pattern honestly could be much better, since the Pst was deep in edges, the pattern could show that same strenght.
Let's not talk about twizzles
The No-touch was good and so was the lift, they didn't let the mistake affect that thankfully.
I hope the judges won't hold that against them because that Pst at the beginning got me. It was SO good !
For the top 5 : only one pattern level4, no Pst4, and only one No-touch 4.
Actually the teams performed really well minus WeaPo (well just for the mistake, the rest was very good).
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I think they're little bit overscored but good for them
Gabi really impressed me with her interpretation of music. Very entertaining. Their lifts seem easier than V/M for sure.
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I think they're little bit overscored but good for them
Their lifts seem easier than V/M for sure.
OMG that SD was amazing!
I think the difference between V/M and P/C is P/C has a lot more speed, and everything is done so easily.
You mention the lift is easier, but if you look at it more closely Gabby only has one foot on Guillaume's spread eagle and the other leg is freely hanging, which for both of them must be quite difficult to balance.
I feel like Virtue and Moir has more theatricality in their performance but I think their twizzles have gotten much more slow over the years, and I think they move slower on the ice in general.
I really really enjoyed that SD, can't wait for the showdown at GPF!!!!
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I guess the coach of the Polish team Sylwia Nowak-Trębacka really helps them with that, I've heard that she's a technical specialist too so she knows it inside-out. If only they (especially Natalia) had better skating skills
Sometimes it looks like they're skating in molasses.
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Yeah ... people are complaining about their twizzles , while they had the best or the 2nd best ones here (behind Guignard / Fabbri in my view). There was some small glitch there (maybe even two little glitches like additional twizzle from Guillaume which I didn't notice myself and that off exit of her) but their unison was very good overall as was their speed. Many other teams would like to have this sort of problem. I have though issue with their extremely high PCS as I don't feel like it was some epitome of Latin on the ice to be honest though.
Once again, excellent analysis on point!
At NHK, everyone could see Tessa's mistake during the DiSt justifying a level3... but no one will be able to find any mistake from Gabriella or Guillaume on the PSt justifying a level3 instead of level4...
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Maybe someone explain why they got leve3, but I think judges decided not to give them all of it
It would br 83 then.The rink is an Olympic size rink. The whole thing happened right in front of the place I was sitting in, and it was quite scary. Andrew just went full speed and stumbled on something on the ice and felt into the boards. I'm really torn between wishing them a strong comeback tomorrow and wanting them to WD and take care of their health
Maybe someone explain why they got leve3, but I think judges decided not to give them all of it
After Anyasnake, another excellent analysis, by Purv this time :agree:
I think you exactly got the point!
matcha for the info. Get well soon Kaitlyn and Andrew
. Thank you for your lovely dance when experiencing adversity :luv17:Are you running for Ice Dance office?
Both of them are injured. Kaitlyn had a displaced rib already before this competition, and they almost withdrew because of that, whereas Andrew's injury (seriously bruised knee) is a result of him falling and crashing into boards during the warmup.
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