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NanaPat

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Not being able to get out on the ice with the kid (but oh, how I'd love to!) I tend to use as a rough guide how much of the skater shows above the boards when he or she is skating relatively upright. On him, the boards are coming slightly below his waist -- between his waist and his hip joints. Comparing a quick look at a few other tall male skaters, that puts him within an inch or so of Evan Lysacek and Benjamin Mimar and a bit taller than Eric Radford. So somewhere around 6'4"? Maybe a bit more. I skated for several seasons recreationally with a man who was a firefighter in his day job and had competed provincially with his 5'8" sister. He's 6'5" (1.95+). :jaw:I had to keep well away from him in sbs camel spins and when landing jumps, and death spirals made me a tad nervous (from my viewpoint I practically had my head lying on his boot), but the thrill of those lifts and twist lifts made up for any other inconveniences.

I'm going to keep an eye on this kid!

Edit: Sorry to notice later that he's retired. Darn. Over 6' is my favourite height for a pairs partner, although I've skated with men 5'7" or so who had the strength to have no problem with lifts. My longest-running partner is over 6', with heavy bones and muscles and hands the size of a baseball catcher's mitt. Very safe feeling in the air.
I found an article about him that gives his height at 6 ft 6 inches! That was when he was 19. I thought he was taller than Ben, based on my gut reaction to seeming both of them skate at the same competition. I never had that "oh my god, he's tall" reaction to Ben that I had to William.

And here is a glorious picture showing William against the boards that you can use to judge his height!
 
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4everchan

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I found an article about him that gives his height at 6 ft 6 inches! That was when he was 19. I thought he was taller than Ben, based on my gut reaction to seeming both of them skate at the same competition. I never had that "oh my god, he's tall" reaction to Ben that I had to William.
I have seen Ben and William at CQÉ one summer in juniors. William was taller. But wow... 6'6". Wow...
 

4everchan

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Thanks @NanaPat for the article and picture. I wonder what happened to him as he really sounded like he wanted to keep going and transitioning to seniors
 

Diana Delafield

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I found an article about him that gives his height at 6 ft 6 inches! That was when he was 19. I thought he was taller than Ben, based on my gut reaction to seeming both of them skate at the same competition. I never had that "oh my god, he's tall" reaction to Ben that I had to William.

And here is a glorious picture showing William against the boards that you can use to judge his height!
You had a better chance to judge in person with another tall skater around! How tall they appear to be depends also on how filled out they are. William is, in the video and picture, still lanky, the "stringbean" look, whereas Ben has more muscle on him and broader shoulders. And also there's the contrast with their partners that affects the eye, Brooke being taller herself (for pairs, although clothing companies consider 5'4" to be the start of the Petite sizes), whereas William's partner is tiny. Like photos of my older brother and me growing up, when he was 6' tall at 13 and kept growing until he reached 6'6" at 20 while I was still in my 4'10" phase. We always say our photos together look like a ventriloquist and his dummy :laugh:.
 

Diana Delafield

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Thanks @NanaPat for the article and picture. I wonder what happened to him as he really sounded like he wanted to keep going and transitioning to seniors
Maybe couldn't find the right partner? In NanaPat's photo his technique looks solid, but she's off-kilter, with more weight on one arm than the other. It takes nerve to feel comfortable that high. Kerry Leitch used to get girls who said they wanted to try pairs to be lifted by one of his tallest boys, like Sean Rice, out in the lobby next to a staircase, while he stood on the stairs at the level where her eyes would be. If he saw nervousness, she was out. If her face lit up with a big smile as she rose to where he was standing, he took her in the program.
 

ladyjane

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I found an article about him that gives his height at 6 ft 6 inches! That was when he was 19. I thought he was taller than Ben, based on my gut reaction to seeming both of them skate at the same competition. I never had that "oh my god, he's tall" reaction to Ben that I had to William.

And here is a glorious picture showing William against the boards that you can use to judge his height!
Thanks for both the article and the picture. Yeah, glorious!
 

synesthesia

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“A few” more nominations (I promise to stop afterwards :censored:):



Singles – Women

Elisabet Tursynbajewa 148
Madeline Schizas 150
Brooklee Han 150
Rino Matsuike 151
Yuna Shiraiwa 151
Yuka Sato 152
Emi Watanabe 152
Júlia Láng 152
Mako Yamashita 152
Rinka Watanabe 153
Ekaterina Kurakova 153
Rika Kihira 155
Mana Kawabe 155
Hana Yoshida 155
Mone Chiba 155
Yuna Aoki 155
Yura Matsuda 155
Rin Nitaya 155
Gabrielle Daleman 155
Deanna Stellato-Dudek 155
Niina Petrõkina 155
Mai Mihara 156
Nana Araki 156
Rion Sumiyoshi 156
Yukari Nakano 156
Dabin Choi 156
Michelle Kwan 157
Janet Lynn 157
Tomoe Kawabata 157
Satsuki Muramoto 157
Fumie Suguri 157
Yoshie Onda 157
Yuhana Yokoi 157
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva 157
Yukina Ōta 158
Anastasia Gubanova 158
Sasha Cohen 158



Pairs – Women

Isabella Gamez 149 (Alexander Korovin 181 -> 32 cm)
Rena Inoue 149 (John Baldwin 175 -> 26 cm)
Oxana Vouillamoz 150 (Flavien Giniaux 180 -> 30 cm)
Alisa Efimova 152 (Ruben Blommaert 180 -> 28 cm / Misha Mitrofanov 185 -> 33 cm)
Ellie Kam 152 (Danny O’Shea 183 -> 31 cm)
Marissa Castelli 152 (Mervin Tran 175 -> 23 cm)
Irina Rodnina 152 (Alexei Ulanov 176 -> 24 cm / Alexander Zaitsev 178 -> 26 cm)
Daria Danilova 153 (Michel Tsiba 181 -> 28 cm)
Maria Evgenievna Pavlova 154 (Alexei Sviatchenko 182 -> 28 cm)
Maylin Wende 154 (Daniel Wende 182 -> 28 cm)
Stacey King 154 (David King 184 -> 30 cm)
Deanna Stellato-Dudek 155 (Maxime Deschamps 178 -> 23 cm)
Annika Hocke 156 (Robert Kunkel 183 -> 27 cm)
Miriam Ziegler 156 (Severin Kiefer 182 -> 26 cm)
Nicole Della Monica 156 (Matteo Guarise 182 -> 26 cm)
Yuko Kavaguti 157 (Alexander Viktorovich Smirnov 183 -> 26 cm)
Anastasia Golubeva 157 (Hektor Moore 184 -> 27 cm)
Camille Kovalev 157 (Pavel Antonovich Kovalev 177 -> 20 cm)
Tarah Kayne 157 (Danny O’Shea 183 -> 26 cm)
Karina Safina 158 (Luka Berulava 186 -> 28 cm)
Chelsea Liu 158 (Balázs Nagy 177 -> 19 cm / Danny O’Shea 183 -> 25 cm)
Zoe Jones 158 (Christopher Boyadji 177 -> 19 cm)
Ksenia Stolbova 158 (Fedor Klimov 181 -> 23 cm)
Oksana Kazakova 158 (Artur Valeryevich Dmitriev 183 -> 25 cm)



There are many more singles and pairs women up to 158 cm / 5ft 2in (about half of the female Japanese singles skaters are below this height), but I gave up looking them up.





Dance - Women

Oona Brown 147 (Gage Brown 167 -> 20 cm)'
Penny Coomes 152 (Nicholas Buckland 182 -> 30 cm)
Utana Yoshida 153 (Masaya Morita 165 -> 12 cm / Shingo Nishiyama 173 -> 20 cm)
Marie Dupayage 155 (Thomas Nabais 168 -> 13 cm)
Yuka Orihara 157 (Juho Pirinen 174 -> 17 cm)
Rie Arikawa 157 (Kenji Miyamoto 175 -> 18 cm)
Eva Pate 157 (Logan Bye 173 -> 16 cm)
Holly Harris 154 (158 according to wikipedia) (Jason Chan 180 -> 26 cm (22 cm))


If taller skaters are allowed in dance (since Lilah and Kaitlin are listed):

Jayne Torvill 159 (Christopher Dean 179 -> 20 cm)
Maria Kazakova 160 (Giorgi Revia 184 -> 24 cm)
Meryl Davis 160 (Charlie White 175 -> 15 cm)
Jennifer Janse van Rensburg 160 (Benjamin Steffan 188 -> 28 cm)
Sara Hurtado 160 (Adrián Díaz 172 -> 12 cm / Kirill Khaliavin 177 -> 17 cm)
Maia Shibutani 160 (Alex Shibutani 182 -> 22 cm)
Solène Mazingue 160 (Marko Gaidajenko 180 -> 20 cm)
Evgenia Lopareva 160 (Geoffrey Brissaud 178 -> 18 cm)




Singles – Men

Daniil Samsonov 15?
Nobuo Satō 162
Akio Sasaki 162
Stefan Lindemann 163
Mitsuki Sumoto 164
Daisuke Murakami 165
Hiroaki Sato 165
Tatsuya Tsuboi 165
Yasuharu Nanri 165
Armin Mahbanoozadeh 165
Daisuke Takahashi 165 (since he’s not listed in singles anymore)
Shoma Uno 158 (not listed in the table)


If taller skaters of Kao’s height are allowed:

Mikhail Kolyada 167
Adam Siao Him Fa 167
Nathan Chen 168
Rudy Galindo 168
Takeshi Honda 168
Minoru Sano 168
Alexander Majorov 168
Wesley Chiu 168
Nozomu Yoshioka 168
Takeru Amine Kataise 168




Dance – Men

Masaya Morita 165 (Utana Yoshida 153 -> 12 cm / Nao Kida 158 -> 7 cm)
Atsuhiko Tamura 167 (Sara Kishimoto 156 -> 11 cm)
Gage Brown 167 (Oona Brown 147 -> 20 cm)
Thomas Nabais 168 (Marie Dupayage 155 -> 13 cm)
Ye Quan 169 (Hannah Lim 165 -> 4 cm)




Pairs Men

Rudy Galindo 168
Cong Han 170 (not listed in the table)




Wakaba Higuchi is in the wrong discipline -> pairs instead of singles
Tamara Moskvina belongs in pairs as well as singles






A bit of statistics to finish:

  • Average height gap of all above mentioned dance teams: 16 cm (6,3 in).

  • Average height gap of all above mentioned pair teams: 26,8 cm (10,5 in).




I’ll see myself out now… 😇
 
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synesthesia

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You missed the mightiest (or smallest) pair women of all:

Riku Miura 145 (Ryuichi Kihara 175 -> 30 cm)
Meagan Duhamel 148 (Eric Radford 188 -> 40cm)


I already nominated them in the first round on page 3 (and suggested a cut-off at 5' 1'') and labgoat has listed them in the OP. :)

If the cut-off for the men is 165 cm (5' 5''), maybe it could be 155 cm (about 5' 1'') for the women? (Imo there doesn’t need to be a distinction between singles and pairs/dance women.)


Tiny, mighty women I’d like to nominate:

Riku Miura 145 (Ryūichi Kihara 175 -> 30 cm)
Meagan Duhamel 148 (Eric Radford 188 -> 40 cm)
Narumi Takahashi 148 (Mervin Tran 175 -> 27 cm)
Wenjing Sui 150 (Cong Han 170 -> 20 cm)
Kristi Yamaguchi 151 (Rudy Galindo 168 -> 17 cm)
Wakaba Higuchi 152
Aljona Savchenko 153 (Robin Szolkowy 174 -> 21 cm / Bruno Massot 184 -> 31 cm)
 

Diana Delafield

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I already nominated them in the first round on page 3 (and suggested a cut-off at 5' 1'') and labgoat has listed them in the OP. :)
I'd voted for Meagan Duhamel a couple of days ago, but wasn't sure if we were including pairs girls since they're almost all tiny which sort of skews the statistics. I still have a couple of handouts from competitions with my height in metric, which was something fairly new in Canada post-1975. I guess my arithmetic was faulty -- it said I was 162 cm, and I've said 5'4"ever since but that would be 5'3". Whatever, I still always felt like Dorothy in Munchkinland in the girls' dressing room for a pairs event.
 

labgoat

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We've created a monster of a thread. With all my rewatch duties I have been unable to update this thread or even keep up with the criteria. If someone could help I'd appreciate it especially since two more people just quit at work (and any new openings are frozen - yay overtime, not :cry:) as we go into the busy fall at the hospital.
 

labgoat

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Size chart on page 1 has been revised to show all skaters from shortest to tallest in cm. Maybe we can get closer to settling on criteria. Also there are more pairs men.
 
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labgoat

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Fun tables

 

TT_Fin

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Sorry I am lazy to read all the posts, but do we have age limit because of some skaters till grow?
 

mrrice

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Well, the smallest skaters I have seen perform are Kristi yamaguchi and Elvis Stojko. Elvis has a strong body but, he was not very tall
 

NanaPat

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Well, the smallest skaters I have seen perform are Kristi yamaguchi and Elvis Stojko. Elvis has a strong body but, he was not very tall
You haven't seen Yuma or Keegan or Jimmy Ma live? Poor you.

At last year's 4CC, the leaders after the short program were Kao Miura, Keegan Messing, and Jimmy Ma. Kao was the tallest of the group at 168 cm. That was a true "short" program. I just looked up Elvis and was surprised to find he is only 170 cm. He seemed taller when I saw him live.
 

skatesofgold

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Isn't Tara Lipinski still only 5 feet 1 inch? And she did technically skate as a professional until 2002 when she would have turned 20.
 
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mrrice

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I actually have seen Keegan. Yes, he's short but he's built like Elvis. Armin M. Might be the smallest male I have ever seen in person.
 
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