NOPE, it was not clean.
Also, one thing about St/K is that they are very consistent. When they fail they do it consistently. When they are on, they keep it up for the rest of the season. Also they usually pick up later in the season.
2015-16 Grand Prix Final Pairs Free Skate
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NOPE, it was not clean.
Also, one thing about St/K is that they are very consistent. When they fail they do it consistently. When they are on, they keep it up for the rest of the season. Also they usually pick up later in the season.
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Must have been CanadianSkaterGuy sneaked on the judging panel.In any case, I can beat $100 that this anonymous judge represents CAN.
Oh for sure it's the Canadian judge. But I think we know which judge gave S/K 9.75/9.50/10.00/10.00/9.75.
S/K were on. They may not be everyone's cup of tea because they seem so distant from the audience, (mainly Ksenia), but the quality of their skating is undeniable... especially those landings on their throws. They may not be emotive/dramatic etc., but they are unique and I still enjoy them, especially when they skate like they did.
K/S. A horrible couple of jumps from her, but they still sold it and I loved it. I want to see it clean in boston.
D/R. A strong comeback in their free. I admire their determination as a pair to keep upping the ante, but my criticism is that nothing ever looks easy with them. What they do is as difficult as they make it look. I'm proud of how well they skated, though, after being 3rd after the sp.
S/B. Apart from one mistake, they were consistent again. Good for them. I feel like I can almost always depend upon them to deliver.
K/S. A horrible couple of jumps from her, but they still sold it and I loved it. I want to see it clean in boston.
D/R. A strong comeback in their free. I admire their determination as a pair to keep upping the ante, but my criticism is that nothing ever looks easy with them. What they do is as difficult as they make it look. I'm proud of how well they skated, though, after being 3rd after the sp.
S/B. Apart from one mistake, they were consistent again. Good for them. I feel like I can almost always depend upon them to deliver.
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What are you talking about? It was landed on one foot, fully rotated. You can say that it didn't have the quality of a good throw, but it was still a clean throw. Same goes for Kav/Smi's 4S throw - not the greatest quality but still clean.
It's sad that V/T have had two-footed throws and throws with hands down -- which are NOT clean throws -- but it scores positive/higher GOE than those two particular 4S throws from D/R and Kav/Smir.
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Oh for sure it's the Canadian judge. But I think we know which judge gave S/K 9.75/9.50/10.00/10.00/9.75.
what comes around....
Clean means +GOE territory, which this was not. You don't have to fall to get a -GOE on the element.
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I don't get your point. It's no news that judges will score nationalistically and bad judging is worth denouncing whether they're Russian or Canadian or wherever.
I liked Seguin/Bilodeau a lot. I wonder if they Th 3Lz was new in their program or it was just a mistake. Juliane position in the air was not good. But other than that they were close to perfect. Their chemistry is amazing. They are my new favourite Canadian team.
St/K deserved to win, but the scores were super inflated, not only in their case.
St/K deserved to win, but the scores were super inflated, not only in their case.
Oh for sure it's the Canadian judge. But I think we know which judge gave S/K 9.75/9.50/10.00/10.00/9.75.
Very quick-witted☺
But to be honest. I would almost give S/K a 10.00 in Interpretation...
Well, the PCS gap in general between D/R and the other top 3 teams in this competition should be at least 5 points. In the case of S/K, ti should be in 10 point territory. I would only give TR score above 8, the rest should be 7.5-ish.
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Um, not to state the super obvious, but +GOE does NOT equate to "clean" elements.
+GOE equates to quality elements, and even then, it's not always the case.
Plenty of elements with actual errors (e.g. V/T's and other pairs' two-footed or hand-down throws... Mao's 2-footed triple axels... some 3-3 combos with a turn in between) have still received +GOE. Luca and Anna's twizzles in the GPF SD got mostly +2's and +1's even though he did an extra rotation than her - which is definitely an error.
Plenty of elements landed on one foot and with sufficient rotation haven't gotten +GOE.
+GOE does not equal clean. Just like -GOE doesn't mean the element wasn't clean (going by what the vast majority of the skating world considers clean).
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Heck no. Sorry. She is stone-faced throughout a ton of that program. Although I will say that Fedor's interpretation was VASTLY improved from how he's performed this program before.
10.00 is perfect interpretation and I could point out a slew of moments in that program with poor/no interpretation (as I could with every pair).
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Aw come on now whatif, the top 3 teams weren't that bad to merit that PCS gap from D/R!
I mean, if D/R scored 70, I would give Stolbova/Klimov much more than 60 points, and Kavaguti/Smirnov + Seguin/Bilodeau would deserve more than 65. I also disagree with you that Stolbova/Klimov deserve a TR score above 8, with the rest around 7.5 -- they were at least 8.25.
Be fair now.
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Ksenia and Fedor have a bittersweet relationship actually
When Fedor makes mistakes, Ksenia is so harsh to him. When the opposite happens, Fedor hugs her. I remember reading something like they aren't hanging out together so much. It's clear that they are not so close personally. Still it's amazing how they produce something high quality together! I love them as they are.
Aw come on now whatif, the top 3 teams weren't that bad to merit that PCS gap from D/R!
I mean, if D/R scored 70, I would give Stolbova/Klimov much more than 60 points, and Kavaguti/Smirnov + Seguin/Bilodeau would deserve more than 65. I also disagree with you that Stolbova/Klimov deserve a TR score above 8, with the rest around 7.5 -- they were at least 8.25.
Be fair now.
If D/R scored 70, I'd give S/K a 76
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ISU stream now is showing Julianne and Charlie being interviewed. 
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By Pj Kwong in English.
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Ksenia and Fedor have a bittersweet relationship actually
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Stolbova/Klimov's win here reminded me of Totmianina/Marinin winning in Turin.
They definitely deserved to win. They were by far the cleanest. They had the difficulty. I could appreciate the athleticism and quality of their elements. But the programs were just kinda meh for me, and there was such a coldness and methodical nature to their free program and their skating in general.
I am, however, thrilled that this isn't a cake walk for D/R anymore as many seemed to think. Rivalries are good for the sport, and make it way more interesting. I'm also glad that Stolbova/Klimov seem to be genuinely happy again (haha, and Fedor lives another day, lol...).
They definitely deserved to win. They were by far the cleanest. They had the difficulty. I could appreciate the athleticism and quality of their elements. But the programs were just kinda meh for me, and there was such a coldness and methodical nature to their free program and their skating in general.
I am, however, thrilled that this isn't a cake walk for D/R anymore as many seemed to think. Rivalries are good for the sport, and make it way more interesting. I'm also glad that Stolbova/Klimov seem to be genuinely happy again (haha, and Fedor lives another day, lol...).
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