2015 Skate Canada Ice Dance SD
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B/S seemed to slow down significantly during the partial step sequence.
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Really enjoyed Weaver/Poje's SD. Very traditional, but it suits them. And it's sometimes nice to just have a pleasant, always-watchable program.
The Shibs definitely had superior twizzles, though I wish they'd sustained the character of the piece throughout, instead of just during the beginning. Perhaps it was just the wrong fit for the SD's requirements.
Bobrova/Soloviev performed quite well, imo, though I found the skating lacking at times (fluidity, ease in the turns, ect.) But what do I know, I'm certainly no ice dance expert.
The Shibs definitely had superior twizzles, though I wish they'd sustained the character of the piece throughout, instead of just during the beginning. Perhaps it was just the wrong fit for the SD's requirements.
Bobrova/Soloviev performed quite well, imo, though I found the skating lacking at times (fluidity, ease in the turns, ect.) But what do I know, I'm certainly no ice dance expert.
After watching the performances I want to mention:
Masquerade waltz and Ravensburger pattern don't go well with each other. The lightness of the Ravensburger is the problem. So I didn't like B/S SD (I have seen it before and that didn't struck me like it did today.) So I think with a different pattern this could be a very good program.
W/P have a beautiful classical SD, very enjoyable. The twizzles were a bit boring, but everything else was very very good.
I didn't get the program from the Shibs - is she supposed to portray a pretty doll? I liked the twizzles though and the quality of the elements and the overal skating.
Masquerade waltz and Ravensburger pattern don't go well with each other. The lightness of the Ravensburger is the problem. So I didn't like B/S SD (I have seen it before and that didn't struck me like it did today.) So I think with a different pattern this could be a very good program.
W/P have a beautiful classical SD, very enjoyable. The twizzles were a bit boring, but everything else was very very good.
I didn't get the program from the Shibs - is she supposed to portray a pretty doll? I liked the twizzles though and the quality of the elements and the overal skating.
Bob/Sol's music didn't go at all with the dances. Waltz music was heavy as you said, as was the Prokofiev. Downer music while the other top programs had upbeat. A bit jarring! the whole thing was a bit over the top in the drama department.
Maia, I think, was portraying a doll come to life (and back to a doll, etc.). It's been done many times by others - not sure if you've seen those performances. I thought she did a great job and there were comedic touches as well, such as her "slapping" Alex.
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W/P's program just beautiful. Way better than C/B. I was pleasantly surprised at how the Shibs have ramped up their skating and are no longer precise yet forgettable. They killed their twizzles and their expression was light and playful. B/S have amazing skating skills and those edges - but all the Russians have amazing deep edges.
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The Shibs' program is to a well-known ballet. It contains both a life size doll and a girl impersonating a doll.
I am surprised anyone is puzzled about this.
Coppelia
http://www.bostonballet.org/tickets/coppelia-synopsis.html
I am surprised anyone is puzzled about this.
Coppelia
http://www.bostonballet.org/tickets/coppelia-synopsis.html
Not sure if anyone remembers Wing and Lowes Original Dance to Coppelia, but it really showcased Wing as the Doll. Link below and enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ija8NiPPJIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ija8NiPPJIQ
Thank you for that Doris P. I was just about to do the same. I have seen the ballet Coppelia more times than I can count, but I can tell you, the Shibs and their team did a great job translating it to meet the rigorous requirements of the SD while still maintaining the spirit of the ballet.
BTW, I believe Max Aaron's sister and her pairs partner (sorry I forget his name) did their SP to Coppelia last season.
BTW, I believe Max Aaron's sister and her pairs partner (sorry I forget his name) did their SP to Coppelia last season.
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Ooh, I do! It was nice!
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:agree: Yes, Maddie Aaron and Max Settlage had a very well-received SP to Coppelia last season.
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The "doll" theme in the Shibs dance is really just lip-service to it. The choreography could be bigger and more inventive to showcase that theme. Not the big step-up season for The Shibs that they could have had. Their programs on paper seemed like great ideas for them but Marina didn't have a good enough vision for these programs.
Thanks! I know the story "The Sandman" by ETA Hoffmann, I didn't know that there was a ballet as well. I find the program more appealing with this background info.
I was pleasantly surprised. They've had such little time to develop this program that I was not expecting it to look this good yet, or get the technical levels. You could still see that it's a work in progress is terms of them being able to just perform and stop thinking through it (the twizzles looked pretty tentative), but it's a really good place to start.
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Alex's hair looks awful in action -- it looks fine when he's sitting and can slick it back, but when it's flying around it looks like an awful 90s haircut...
Funnily enough I like C/B more. W/P is beautiful though.
Shibs were outstanding! W/P ...like okay I'm glad they got rid of that tacky Elvis program - but to just replace it with a hackneyed Strauss for a waltz SD - they skated well but ...it had to be perfection and it was little drab at parts due in part of the akward music cuts as someone mentioned previously. A tad vanilla boring for my taste - at least the Shibs had some cheekiness and personality. #subjective
Very interesting competition.
WP, can't say I am loving this new SD of theirs, but maybe I do like it better than Elvis.
Shibs worked and improved to a 66. Feel that's fair. Not loving the SD but if WP can score a 68 and CB a 70 then the Shibs can score a 66.
BS, very nice. I would have maybe put them above Shibs, but really I find them close.
I guess the biggest surprise is how Russian teams are comparing. I feel like MK SD was scored fairly. I always felt they were overscored last year because Russia didn't have any really solid teams besides IZ, so they pushed MK and SB. This year, they don't need them. IZ are promising, BS are back and SK apparently got their act together. But, still, I am surprised to find MK scoring closer to YM. SK may not be fighting MK for third at all, SK seem much closer to BS than to MK. We have to see what SB will score internationally.
I am very curious to see FD scores tomorrow.
WP, can't say I am loving this new SD of theirs, but maybe I do like it better than Elvis.
Shibs worked and improved to a 66. Feel that's fair. Not loving the SD but if WP can score a 68 and CB a 70 then the Shibs can score a 66.
BS, very nice. I would have maybe put them above Shibs, but really I find them close.
I guess the biggest surprise is how Russian teams are comparing. I feel like MK SD was scored fairly. I always felt they were overscored last year because Russia didn't have any really solid teams besides IZ, so they pushed MK and SB. This year, they don't need them. IZ are promising, BS are back and SK apparently got their act together. But, still, I am surprised to find MK scoring closer to YM. SK may not be fighting MK for third at all, SK seem much closer to BS than to MK. We have to see what SB will score internationally.
I am very curious to see FD scores tomorrow.
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I was going to mention them and their program as the original doll-coming-to-life concept that is now so copied and stale.
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